Aren't you going to give me your citation before you ask me for one on something quite different?
OK then, I'll assume you cannot support your claim, and want me to do your homework?
Here's just one paper on vaccine and booster effectiveness on transmission including Delta and Omicron
"Vaccine effectiveness against transmission (VET) of SARS-CoV-2-infection can be estimated from secondary attack rates observed during contact tracing. We estimated VET, the vaccine-effect on infectiousness of the index case and susceptibility of the high-risk exposure contact (HREC)...
...Initial VET of booster-vaccination (mRNA primary and booster-vaccination) was 87% (95%CI 86тАУ89) against Delta and 68% (95%CI 65тАУ70) against Omicron. The VET-estimate against Delta and Omicron decreased to 71% (95%CI 64тАУ78) and 55% (95%CI 46тАУ62) respectively, 150тАУ200 days after booster-vaccination."
So effectiveness of Boosters against transmission of Omicron was 55% after 200 days post vax (as compared to no vax)
The bivalent-vaccinated group had a slightly but statistically significantly higher infection rate than the unvaccinated group in the statewide category and the age тЙе50 years category.
As for the Cleveland clinic study (which is often cited by antivaxers as showing there were more infections in the vaccinated), again you are looking at subgroups with different behaviour characteristics. Those staff who were vaxed were the frontline clinical care providers who had high covid exposures. The staff who werenтАЩt vaxed had jobs not involving contact. So finding a higher rate of infections is explicable. The vaxed staff are also likelier to have been tested more, so youтАЩd pick up more asymptomatic infections.
Again, IтАЩd point out that the study authors donтАЩt state vaccination increases infection; this was an anomalous correlation and not causation. In fact the overall study did conclude that vaccination was associated with a 30% REDUCTION in covid infections.
Please stop cherrypicking and misrepresenting studies to try and prove your fallacious point.
There are multiple other population and epidemiological studies that demonstrate vaccination reduces the risk of infection. Of course, it canтАЩt prevent all transmissions, but even a small reduction can be important particularly in the vulnerable.
With the Omicron variant we see overall milder infections, so the role of vaccines in preventing infection is less relevant, what is important is that vaccination can avert SERIOUS infections and death from Covid which it still does.
I dont need freaking studies to show that there are infections among the vaccinated. IтАЩll give you the benefit of a doubt and say at best, a 30% reduction in transmission. For a respiratory virus that 100% of the population has had at this point. We havenтАЩt even touched the adverse effects from the mRNA тАЬcureтАЭ.
And this was was the cure that the corrupted white coats supported taking away peopleтАЩs jobs and right to life over? Every single тАЭscientistтАЭ or politician or media talking head that scolded us that the virus тАЬstops with each vaccinated personтАЭ deserves to be in jail for misinformation. No, you sir are on the wrong side of this.
When Covid consisted of Alpha and then Delta, the effectiveness of vaccines against transmission was around 80%, so yes, vaccination was an important part of protection. Now it may be only 30% against Omicron, but that may be important to the elderly and the vulnerable. There are still 1,500 dying every week from Covid, that's like a 9/11 every fortnight.
You do not refute the findings of my study, I note. It is not an analysis of a cherrypicked subgroup, but looks at the whole population.
I note your Cureus study is on prison inmates, who likely have very differing behaviour to the general population and IтАЩd hesitate to extrapolate. They found a non-significant difference between vaxed and unvaxed inmates, and only teased out a small significant difference when analysing different age ranges. In research terms this is known as p-hacking, looking at subgroups until hey presto you find one which is different. Here we have a subgroup of a subgroup тАж certainly not generalisable and the study authors donтАЩt do so and donтАЩt draw firm conclusions, so neither should you.
Citation needed.
Show me a post-Delta citation that the vaccine reduces transmission.
Aren't you going to give me your citation before you ask me for one on something quite different?
OK then, I'll assume you cannot support your claim, and want me to do your homework?
Here's just one paper on vaccine and booster effectiveness on transmission including Delta and Omicron
"Vaccine effectiveness against transmission (VET) of SARS-CoV-2-infection can be estimated from secondary attack rates observed during contact tracing. We estimated VET, the vaccine-effect on infectiousness of the index case and susceptibility of the high-risk exposure contact (HREC)...
...Initial VET of booster-vaccination (mRNA primary and booster-vaccination) was 87% (95%CI 86тАУ89) against Delta and 68% (95%CI 65тАУ70) against Omicron. The VET-estimate against Delta and Omicron decreased to 71% (95%CI 64тАУ78) and 55% (95%CI 46тАУ62) respectively, 150тАУ200 days after booster-vaccination."
So effectiveness of Boosters against transmission of Omicron was 55% after 200 days post vax (as compared to no vax)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10073587/
That doesn't look like "negative efficacy" to me, Phil.
I was simply returning the favor, dipwad.
The bivalent-vaccinated group had a slightly but statistically significantly higher infection rate than the unvaccinated group in the statewide category and the age тЙе50 years category.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10482361/
And here are more studies showing boosters can reduce Omicron infections...
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7148e1.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7225a4.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7148e1.htm
Scold me for study samples, then the only semi-current study you could find was only among nursing home residents. LOL
No, that's just one study. The others are both among the general population.
....Shessh, you are dense!
As for the Cleveland clinic study (which is often cited by antivaxers as showing there were more infections in the vaccinated), again you are looking at subgroups with different behaviour characteristics. Those staff who were vaxed were the frontline clinical care providers who had high covid exposures. The staff who werenтАЩt vaxed had jobs not involving contact. So finding a higher rate of infections is explicable. The vaxed staff are also likelier to have been tested more, so youтАЩd pick up more asymptomatic infections.
Again, IтАЩd point out that the study authors donтАЩt state vaccination increases infection; this was an anomalous correlation and not causation. In fact the overall study did conclude that vaccination was associated with a 30% REDUCTION in covid infections.
Please stop cherrypicking and misrepresenting studies to try and prove your fallacious point.
There are multiple other population and epidemiological studies that demonstrate vaccination reduces the risk of infection. Of course, it canтАЩt prevent all transmissions, but even a small reduction can be important particularly in the vulnerable.
With the Omicron variant we see overall milder infections, so the role of vaccines in preventing infection is less relevant, what is important is that vaccination can avert SERIOUS infections and death from Covid which it still does.
I dont need freaking studies to show that there are infections among the vaccinated. IтАЩll give you the benefit of a doubt and say at best, a 30% reduction in transmission. For a respiratory virus that 100% of the population has had at this point. We havenтАЩt even touched the adverse effects from the mRNA тАЬcureтАЭ.
And this was was the cure that the corrupted white coats supported taking away peopleтАЩs jobs and right to life over? Every single тАЭscientistтАЭ or politician or media talking head that scolded us that the virus тАЬstops with each vaccinated personтАЭ deserves to be in jail for misinformation. No, you sir are on the wrong side of this.
When Covid consisted of Alpha and then Delta, the effectiveness of vaccines against transmission was around 80%, so yes, vaccination was an important part of protection. Now it may be only 30% against Omicron, but that may be important to the elderly and the vulnerable. There are still 1,500 dying every week from Covid, that's like a 9/11 every fortnight.
All you need is freaking integrity and 5th grade math/science/reading skills to see the anti-vacc fraus.
You do not refute the findings of my study, I note. It is not an analysis of a cherrypicked subgroup, but looks at the whole population.
I note your Cureus study is on prison inmates, who likely have very differing behaviour to the general population and IтАЩd hesitate to extrapolate. They found a non-significant difference between vaxed and unvaxed inmates, and only teased out a small significant difference when analysing different age ranges. In research terms this is known as p-hacking, looking at subgroups until hey presto you find one which is different. Here we have a subgroup of a subgroup тАж certainly not generalisable and the study authors donтАЩt do so and donтАЩt draw firm conclusions, so neither should you.