What is the vaccination rate of the more than 10 million illegal immigrants that Biden has welcomed into the country? How can you pretend to have an honest analysis without even mentioning this?
I have noticed that the pro vaccine front has adjusted their position on some hard facts about vaccines since Covid.
Vaccines are accepted now to not stop catching or spreading diseases.
Advocates are more careful now saying what mortality from disease is, as an example they aren’t stating any longer that measles are a death sentence citing example from 1900 era. The CDC’s graphs showing mortality rates dropping more than 90% prior to vaccine introduction are too wide spread now, they had to concede that.
Areas for the vaccine crowd to still work on. From COVID we learned the concept of dying with a disease rather than from a disease, the same will be true for chickenpox, measles etc. there is no kid that died with chickpox that wouldn’t be susceptible to almost anything, basically a health impaired person. These people are the ones that vaccines should be reserved for, the 1/1000 immune compromised person.
Another area for the vaccine crowd to work on is understanding that natural infection provides superior health benefits, as an example those with natural chickpox infection having lower rates of shingles later in life compared to the vaccinated.
Another item is the area of harms / adverse events from vaccines, the risk could be worth it for an immune compromised person but it’s not for a perfectly health person. Understand that the 1 or 2 cases per million adverse events claim if you follow it through is the number of awarded vaccine injury claims divided by the total number of vaccines given. If you’ve ever asked a question about a kid’s neurological ticks that followed MMR as an example you learn real quick there are significant barriers to reporting a concern and being taken seriously. They did the same thing to people that first asked, you think maybe this lung cancer is from smoking? Point is for every injury claim that is paid out it is the tip of the iceberg, the one or two per million claim is ridiculous.
The other thing we learned from Covid is that there are viable prophylactic and therapeutic steps that can be taken with disease. As an example vitamin D was not therapeutic for Covid but if you took it regularly before being exposed it seems to have been useful as there was basically no one in the ICU that had good vitamin D levels. And as documented in the 2005 paper in the national library of medicine that Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.
But they told people do nothing, wait till you get really sick before coming to the hospital, after there is anything we can do for you, very strange that guidance wasn’t given to minimize health complications from infection.
Let’s face it pharma has been misleading us for decades and as they play a more dominate role in everyone’s lives (an increasing percentage of GDP is being spent on health than ever before) our health continues to decline. Ever increasing rates of chronic disease go hand in hand with ever increasing use of drugs and vaccines. There’s other factors like processed food, but come on, so many of these health problems are autoimmune related and the one thing that absolutely can’t be included on the list of potential causes are the very products that intentionally stimulates your immune system. And now with mRNA it’s your own cells internationally growing a protein to be attacked by your own immune system.
Vaccines and drugs have been over used, there’s just too much money at stake to prevent that from happening, one day that will be accepted. Pharma knew vaccines were inherently dangerous, they were going to exit the business in the early 80’s because of it. That resulted in Reagan agreeing for the govt to take on the liability in the 1986 Vaccine Act, and ever since then pharma’s enthusiasm for vaccines can’t be stopped. Moderna’s vision with their DART plan is 48 hours from virus detection to mRNA shot ready for injection, what could possibly go wrong.
Unfortunately, the undifferentiated pushing of the COVID-vaccines from infant to elderly has fueled undifferentiated vaccine hesitancy in many people, as the suppression of open scientific debate pushes scepsis towards science.
Maybe we should start cleaning our own room, before we start blaming others.
Expect to see many more deaths from preventable diseases during the second Trump administration, which will begin in January of 2025. That's ironic because he was originally a vaccine booster.
Once that genii is out of the lamp it will not be stuffed back in easily no matter who succeeds Trump as Dictator of America. Such things take generations.
I don’t understand the death rate here. Almost all children had measles prior to the introduction of the vaccine. Are we really saying it killed more than 1 in 100? In a modern, well nourished nation? In this paper link below, it was 1 in 1000 approx, immediately prior to the vaccine licensure. What on earth gave it such a high fatality rate in this outbreak? Seems fishy.
We have here one more piece of evidence confirming an axiomatic statement: Just because some church or "church leader" utters directives to her/his "faithful followers" there is never a bit of assurance that said directives are not just pure B.S. -- be careful what/whom you believe in.
Del Bigtree is a good man, it’s not easy being a contrarian, he came to be in the role he’s in by coincidence, he did not set out to take on this fight. He was on cruise control, everything was going his way and then he jeopardizes all that to be stigmatized by people like you, I don’t think so. You somehow equate what he’s doing was a plan to extract rents from a fraudulent venture. You know who you’re describing when you describe that, pharma.
You know it would be great if a guy like you would go on Del’s show and have a civilized conversation. This matter needs to be resolved, we keep adding shots to the childhood schedule and rates of chronic diseases keep going up, it’s literally as obvious as cigarettes (same type of correlations in multiple unconnected environment, etc.) meets the Bradford Hill criteria. People will look back on history and say they were literally poisoning themselves, no different than the way we look back on the Romans with their plumbing. They will look back and say how could they be so stupid.
How could talking about a topic be controversial. You do realize that at each time in history the ones refusing to engage with and guilty of censoring their critics / skeptics are recognized as the ones that were wrong. There has been no issue where talking about the negative aspects of something was as taboo as vaccines and could result in you being finished. pharma and their devoted apostles are obviously on the wrong side of history. Will maybe climate change.
It’s like the climate crisis (may as well get another topic on the table) the one thing the 97% of scientists can all agree on is not getting their funding cancelled. Just like pharma, go along, keep your mouth shut or forget ever qualifying for a grant, it’s the most corrupt enterprise ever set in motion, right up there with the military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about, the two are actually two peas in a pod, the same institution investors control the whole works along with the media, ever wonder why they are always on board reporting what the companies do?
Anyway we see the world differently, that’s obvious, and we’re both going to work to further our views, that’s alright isn’t it?
All Dr Offitt points out is the association with measles deaths to lack of vaccination. It's causal actually. Personally I hope a lot of Anti Vaxxers chose to go unvax so we can "cull the herd!" Cool thing about measles is you can completely get over it, then 7-10 years later get an uncurable neurological disease.
I read an article that said the average age of the patients was 3, with a range of 0-64. That would seem to indicate a significant number of the children affected would not have been old enough to get the MMR vaccine, 12-15 months
Well, we do of course want their kids to get vaccine, maybe we could have more success convincing unvaccinated women to get it to protect their baby after birth. (But since it's live, this must be before they are pregnant).
it isn't wakefield that caused your problems, paul. it was your thirst for absolute power and mandating medical products that got us here.
as long as the mrna medical products are on the market I don't blame parents for not wanting to take ANY of the vaccines on the childhood vaccine schedule. it is reasonable to assume that if paul thinks mrna vaccines are safe AND THEY ARE NOT. well, then the other vaccines this absolute psychopath thinks are safe might not be safe either.
it is fascinating how we are supposed to believe that paul can tell us how safe things are until theyre proven not to be then it's "oops, we didn't know. because science". well, sorry. that isn't good enough.
make pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, and doctors liable for any harms caused after vaccination. correlation might not equal causation but if a child has a stroke, intussesception, or dies after rsv vaccine, the likelihood there is a correlation to the recent vaccine can be assumed.
Measles is a completely preventable highly infectious disease that can kill children. The live attenuated vaccine works and is safe.
What is the vaccination rate of the more than 10 million illegal immigrants that Biden has welcomed into the country? How can you pretend to have an honest analysis without even mentioning this?
I have noticed that the pro vaccine front has adjusted their position on some hard facts about vaccines since Covid.
Vaccines are accepted now to not stop catching or spreading diseases.
Advocates are more careful now saying what mortality from disease is, as an example they aren’t stating any longer that measles are a death sentence citing example from 1900 era. The CDC’s graphs showing mortality rates dropping more than 90% prior to vaccine introduction are too wide spread now, they had to concede that.
Areas for the vaccine crowd to still work on. From COVID we learned the concept of dying with a disease rather than from a disease, the same will be true for chickenpox, measles etc. there is no kid that died with chickpox that wouldn’t be susceptible to almost anything, basically a health impaired person. These people are the ones that vaccines should be reserved for, the 1/1000 immune compromised person.
Another area for the vaccine crowd to work on is understanding that natural infection provides superior health benefits, as an example those with natural chickpox infection having lower rates of shingles later in life compared to the vaccinated.
Another item is the area of harms / adverse events from vaccines, the risk could be worth it for an immune compromised person but it’s not for a perfectly health person. Understand that the 1 or 2 cases per million adverse events claim if you follow it through is the number of awarded vaccine injury claims divided by the total number of vaccines given. If you’ve ever asked a question about a kid’s neurological ticks that followed MMR as an example you learn real quick there are significant barriers to reporting a concern and being taken seriously. They did the same thing to people that first asked, you think maybe this lung cancer is from smoking? Point is for every injury claim that is paid out it is the tip of the iceberg, the one or two per million claim is ridiculous.
The other thing we learned from Covid is that there are viable prophylactic and therapeutic steps that can be taken with disease. As an example vitamin D was not therapeutic for Covid but if you took it regularly before being exposed it seems to have been useful as there was basically no one in the ICU that had good vitamin D levels. And as documented in the 2005 paper in the national library of medicine that Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
But they told people do nothing, wait till you get really sick before coming to the hospital, after there is anything we can do for you, very strange that guidance wasn’t given to minimize health complications from infection.
Let’s face it pharma has been misleading us for decades and as they play a more dominate role in everyone’s lives (an increasing percentage of GDP is being spent on health than ever before) our health continues to decline. Ever increasing rates of chronic disease go hand in hand with ever increasing use of drugs and vaccines. There’s other factors like processed food, but come on, so many of these health problems are autoimmune related and the one thing that absolutely can’t be included on the list of potential causes are the very products that intentionally stimulates your immune system. And now with mRNA it’s your own cells internationally growing a protein to be attacked by your own immune system.
Vaccines and drugs have been over used, there’s just too much money at stake to prevent that from happening, one day that will be accepted. Pharma knew vaccines were inherently dangerous, they were going to exit the business in the early 80’s because of it. That resulted in Reagan agreeing for the govt to take on the liability in the 1986 Vaccine Act, and ever since then pharma’s enthusiasm for vaccines can’t be stopped. Moderna’s vision with their DART plan is 48 hours from virus detection to mRNA shot ready for injection, what could possibly go wrong.
https://youtu.be/Ee5TNSIOeEI?si=1xpj7w_QWr6SYMhX
Unfortunately, the undifferentiated pushing of the COVID-vaccines from infant to elderly has fueled undifferentiated vaccine hesitancy in many people, as the suppression of open scientific debate pushes scepsis towards science.
Maybe we should start cleaning our own room, before we start blaming others.
Expect to see many more deaths from preventable diseases during the second Trump administration, which will begin in January of 2025. That's ironic because he was originally a vaccine booster.
Once that genii is out of the lamp it will not be stuffed back in easily no matter who succeeds Trump as Dictator of America. Such things take generations.
I weep for my country.
https://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
Just a cautionary reminder that vaccines are useless in the BEST case
I don’t understand the death rate here. Almost all children had measles prior to the introduction of the vaccine. Are we really saying it killed more than 1 in 100? In a modern, well nourished nation? In this paper link below, it was 1 in 1000 approx, immediately prior to the vaccine licensure. What on earth gave it such a high fatality rate in this outbreak? Seems fishy.
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/189/Supplement_1/S1/820569#:~:text=From%201956%20to%201960%2C%20an%20average%20of%20450%20measles%2Drelated,reported%20cases)%20%5B2%5D.
We have here one more piece of evidence confirming an axiomatic statement: Just because some church or "church leader" utters directives to her/his "faithful followers" there is never a bit of assurance that said directives are not just pure B.S. -- be careful what/whom you believe in.
Thank you for the history lesson. Always appreciate your insight. Sensible Medicine. Not so sensible comments.
Del Bigtree is a good man, it’s not easy being a contrarian, he came to be in the role he’s in by coincidence, he did not set out to take on this fight. He was on cruise control, everything was going his way and then he jeopardizes all that to be stigmatized by people like you, I don’t think so. You somehow equate what he’s doing was a plan to extract rents from a fraudulent venture. You know who you’re describing when you describe that, pharma.
You know it would be great if a guy like you would go on Del’s show and have a civilized conversation. This matter needs to be resolved, we keep adding shots to the childhood schedule and rates of chronic diseases keep going up, it’s literally as obvious as cigarettes (same type of correlations in multiple unconnected environment, etc.) meets the Bradford Hill criteria. People will look back on history and say they were literally poisoning themselves, no different than the way we look back on the Romans with their plumbing. They will look back and say how could they be so stupid.
How could talking about a topic be controversial. You do realize that at each time in history the ones refusing to engage with and guilty of censoring their critics / skeptics are recognized as the ones that were wrong. There has been no issue where talking about the negative aspects of something was as taboo as vaccines and could result in you being finished. pharma and their devoted apostles are obviously on the wrong side of history. Will maybe climate change.
It’s like the climate crisis (may as well get another topic on the table) the one thing the 97% of scientists can all agree on is not getting their funding cancelled. Just like pharma, go along, keep your mouth shut or forget ever qualifying for a grant, it’s the most corrupt enterprise ever set in motion, right up there with the military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about, the two are actually two peas in a pod, the same institution investors control the whole works along with the media, ever wonder why they are always on board reporting what the companies do?
Anyway we see the world differently, that’s obvious, and we’re both going to work to further our views, that’s alright isn’t it?
All Dr Offitt points out is the association with measles deaths to lack of vaccination. It's causal actually. Personally I hope a lot of Anti Vaxxers chose to go unvax so we can "cull the herd!" Cool thing about measles is you can completely get over it, then 7-10 years later get an uncurable neurological disease.
As long as the people who chose to be unvaccinated pay for the costs of treating a preventable disease, go for it!
Thanks Dr Offitt for promoting reason, not nonsense!
can we ask this question:
Did the U.S. Death Rate from Measles Decline by over 98% Before Introduction of a Measles Vaccine?
I read an article that said the average age of the patients was 3, with a range of 0-64. That would seem to indicate a significant number of the children affected would not have been old enough to get the MMR vaccine, 12-15 months
Well, we do of course want their kids to get vaccine, maybe we could have more success convincing unvaccinated women to get it to protect their baby after birth. (But since it's live, this must be before they are pregnant).
it isn't wakefield that caused your problems, paul. it was your thirst for absolute power and mandating medical products that got us here.
as long as the mrna medical products are on the market I don't blame parents for not wanting to take ANY of the vaccines on the childhood vaccine schedule. it is reasonable to assume that if paul thinks mrna vaccines are safe AND THEY ARE NOT. well, then the other vaccines this absolute psychopath thinks are safe might not be safe either.
it is fascinating how we are supposed to believe that paul can tell us how safe things are until theyre proven not to be then it's "oops, we didn't know. because science". well, sorry. that isn't good enough.
make pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, and doctors liable for any harms caused after vaccination. correlation might not equal causation but if a child has a stroke, intussesception, or dies after rsv vaccine, the likelihood there is a correlation to the recent vaccine can be assumed.