Thats the national pulse in the 50s. Thats about as serious as anyone took it. It was a joke then still is. Most of us got measles mumps and chicken pox as kids; have lifelong immunity
As you can see above; mortality rates to measles had dropped a staggering 98% BEFOR vaccines were introduced.
Most American parents sent their kids off to measles and chicken pox parties to be infected; suffer through it a few days to LIFELONG immunity.
Something not possible with a vaccine. As the vaccinated still contract and transmit the very illnesses they were vaccinated against as was the case with that young child this week used as propaganda for indemnified liability shielded vaccines
Dont poison your child with liability shielded drugs (only vacvines enjoy such protection)
So it would be okay with you if 500 children a year died from measles, because 48,000 pre-vaccine hospitalized children and 500 dead children were UNHEALTHY?
Deaths declined over the years with improvements in supportive care: the introduction of O2 therapy, IVs to maintain hydration, antibiotics to prevent the fatal secondary infections.
BUT it took massive medical interventions and hospitalization to lower the death rate, because the infection rate was unchanged. Death rates did not decline in the decade before the vaccine was introduced.
The chart doesn't include all the co-morbidities, like the 600,000 cases of measles blindness per year that continue.
I want to go on, but - dang - I know I'm not going to convince you. I just hope this convinces someone who might be swayed by your opinions.
(Not a pro-vax pharma whore. Watch your language.)
>Deaths declined over the years with improvements in supportive care: the introduction of O2 therapy, IVs to maintain hydration, antibiotics to prevent the fatal secondary infections.
No.deaths declined because of improvements in general health due to sanitation, nutrition, water treatment and food refrigeration
Antibiotics were never the treatment protocol for measles. The treatment protocol pre 1963 was "go home and rest for a few days get plenty of water" none of the nonsense you listed above
At least you didnt pretend that vaccines had anything to do with it like these overpaid pharma shills
>BUT it took massive medical interventions and hospitalization to lower the death rate, because the infection rate was unchanged. Death rates did not decline in the decade before the vaccine was introduced.
No.it did not. If American parents willingly took their kids to be infected at chicken pox and measels parties then you are in the twilight zone. Nothing you stated above is remotely true
>The chart doesn't include all the co-morbidities, like the 600,000 cases of measles blindness per year that continue
Because you just made it up. If mid century parents were willing to risk it at parties they werent concerned about blindness
>want to go on, but - dang - I know I'm not going to convince you. I just hope this convinces someone who might be swayed by your opinions.
>(Not a pro-vax pharma whore. Watch your language.)
Be quiet. You dont control my language. We have a 1st Amendment in this country. Go back to UK and have your idiotic cops visit you for social media posts. This is America we don't do that here idiot
People read your comments. You're very effective and unafraid of their diminutive attempts at browbeating. People need ammunition when speaking to these people. They gang up on Mothers in hospitals when they're alone. We can't stop.
We have to answer all these people. They don't understand why we're so effective. They won't engage honestly with us, they can't. they don't understand that if they would drop the talking points and acknowledge the dangers of vaccinations they'd actually GAIN credibility. They would lose the ability to mandate vaccines and availability protection would also be untenable but they would gain credibility and higher uptake. I hope they never understand it. Don't take your boot of their neck for a second!
You haven't responded to the 500 deaths per year that occurred before vaccines. You haven't responded to the 48,000 hospitalizations. Sure, lots of us got through it without severe disease. But those figures are too high. No one made the numbers up.
"Antibiotics were never the treatment protocol for measles." No indeed. As I stated, they used antibiotics "to prevent the fatal secondary infections," like pneumonia, which are often what kills kids with severe measles.
"Because you just made it up. If mid century parents were willing to risk it at parties they werent concerned about blindness." Did you even research measles blindness? Protocols for proventing blindness are part of treatment for severe measles. Just doesn't happen in low-income countries.
"You dont control my language." And obviously, neither do you. I agree that the 1st Amendment protects your right to be rude, though it's an unworthy use of the right.
"Go back to UK" Where did you get that? I'm an American.
You received a response to your claims. You dislike the reposne because you no longer have the moral high ground.
People understand YOU now the way you people understood 'us' for years. We used to trust a stethoscope and a white coat, not anymore. The most dangerous place on the planet is in a corporate pharmaceutical drug distribution facility (hospital).
There is no data because the definitions were changed. Now days the person would have to be 'unvaccinated' and 'linked' to an 'outbreak' and 'laboratory confirmed'. In the 50s probably they used a set of symptoms with none of these elimination criteria. Maybe they quarantined people in hospital to achieve the high hospitalization numbers and the 3 to 4 million cases were an estimate based on their belief in life long immunity and everyone getting 'it'. With 55 million children in 1955 divided by 17 years you would get 3.2 million children on average for each age. For 1957 it would be 3.5 million which would be the middle of the decade before 1963. For 1953 it would be 3.06 million and 1962 3.9.
What has changed in recent years is the keto trend. There is people saying modern fruit has too much sugar even tho a lot of it is not ripe and lacks sugar. They tell people sugar causes diabetes even tho diabetes is insulin resistance caused by fat and too little fruit. This means there is people avoiding juice and fruit. In the 60s vitamin C was popularized. People would have grape fruit for breakfast and orange juice. There was juicers so people could make their own juice and tropical fruits people had never tried before. Between 2016 and 2020 scurvy in children more than tripled from 8.2 to 26.7 cases per 100,000. Symptoms can include a rash that does not fade when you press a glass against it and sensitivity to light.
If people posting on social media were visited by cops in the US when they boasted about going out to shoot people, maybe there wouldn't be dozens of kids massacred each year in mass shootings.
And it's okay for you that THOUSANDS of children die every year as a result of taking the mmr vaccine. If a person wants to subject their child to shoddily made medical products that is up to them. But there can be no mandates of any kind moving forward. The liability protection for the pharmaceutical industry also has to go. Your marketing campaigns won't work anymore.
Dr. Offit, too bad for you the fear tactics no longer work. Like most clerical classes, you overstepped the boundary of what was fair and reasonable into what is unfair and absurd. Your spell has been broken.
I dedicate the latest victory in Hawaii for Religious/Philisophical exemptions to vaccination to you, Dr. Offit. https://legiscan.com/HI/bill/HB1118/2025 - The bill has been tabled effectively killing it.
With respect, Dr. Offit, there is ample evidence (further back than the date if this video) that SARS-CoV-2 transmission is also predominantly airborne/aerosolized.
The issue has been measles. We all know the discussion is really about vaccination. I believe in vaccination. I question the aggressive schedule used in the US vs what we have in Europe. Why can't this be an uncontroversial statement?
I have read many interesting articles on measles lately, Dr. Robert Malone's Substack, Dr. Peter MCCullough's Substack, The Defender Substack (Children's Health Defense). Candace Owens made some interesting comments referring to the CDC's own data on measles and the MMR vaccine. (candaceowensshow)
Candace Owen’s has some interesting takes. Have you seen the interview where she claims dinosaurs never existed? She believes any dinosaur bones that exist are fake and their existence is a conspiracy propagated by paleontologist.
Yeah I am not sure I have watched any “ A Shot in The Dark” episodes. I am speaking to her belief that dinosaurs are fake. Not Wikipedia. Video of Candace Owen’s claiming dinosaurs are gay and fake.
Science is not a popularity contest. Truth isnt judged by consensus. Many research scientists correctly point out that what is being looked at is often cell debris AFTER or during an infection and does not represent a viral pathogen
Kochs Postulates must be met and many times its not.
In any case - who would know more about this subject - you ? some silly little basement dweller or someone like former Pfizer exec Dr Michael Yeadon (as one of many on this subject)
Dr. Malone is a vaccinoligist, McCullough is a cardiologist with who has written over 600 peer reviewed studies, Owens is an intelligent mom who is just educating herself - doesn't take a scientist to read
It’s true, Candace Owen’s is a mom. Probably a good one too. She has intelligence but she demonstrates absolute ignorance and stupidity on a regular basis too. Just curious. Do you agree with her that dinosaurs are fake and a conspiracy? Do you agree with her that the earth is flat or that the moon landing was faked?
Malone is a research chemical scientist who was involved in mRNA work over 10 years ago. Miffed at his failure to be recognised with a Nobel prize (there were about 150 scientists over the years who contributed to development), he turned into a bitter antivaxer.
He knows nothing about measles or infection epidemiology and nothing about virology.
McCullough is a former cardiologist who slipped down the rabbit hole of antivax and covid contrarian ideology. He too knows zero about measles/viruses, infectious childhood diseases, virology or epidemiology. Since turning antivax he has had several of his papers retracted.
Candace Owen’s thinks dinosaurs are a hoax and that space travel and the moon landings are fake. I don’t think I’ll take her word on anything.
McCullough also now sells herbal supplements claiming to rid the body of spike proteins and Covid for only $65 a month. You know, like a true grifter…..I mean Doctor.
Candace Owens gave my chimpanzee syphilis, then doxxed my children on twitter. Malone stole my mom's Oxy, and my 12 year old daughter's underwear.
McCullough used my mom's credit cards to run up tens of thousands of dollars in fraudulent charges - And then he billed her $2950 for a "telemedicine consultation."
Candace Owens gave my three Rottweilers syphilis, then doxxed my children on YouTube and twitter, bringing them massive harassment and death threats.
Malone stole my mom's Percocet and oxy, and my tween daughter's underwear.
McCullough used three of mom's credit cards to run up tens of thousands of dollars in fraudulent charges - And then he billed her $2950 for a "telemedicine consultation."
Great video, Paul! Should prove very useful. Thanks!
Excellent thank you!
thank you for sharing
This is of course propaganda. Measles is a mild illness for healthy children.
Here is how measles was dealth with in sitcoms during that era.
https://rumble.com/v4cgput-brady-bunch-measles-episode.html
Thats the national pulse in the 50s. Thats about as serious as anyone took it. It was a joke then still is. Most of us got measles mumps and chicken pox as kids; have lifelong immunity
globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
As you can see above; mortality rates to measles had dropped a staggering 98% BEFOR vaccines were introduced.
Most American parents sent their kids off to measles and chicken pox parties to be infected; suffer through it a few days to LIFELONG immunity.
Something not possible with a vaccine. As the vaccinated still contract and transmit the very illnesses they were vaccinated against as was the case with that young child this week used as propaganda for indemnified liability shielded vaccines
Dont poison your child with liability shielded drugs (only vacvines enjoy such protection)
Provax pharma whores congregate in 3, 2, 1 ...
So it would be okay with you if 500 children a year died from measles, because 48,000 pre-vaccine hospitalized children and 500 dead children were UNHEALTHY?
Deaths declined over the years with improvements in supportive care: the introduction of O2 therapy, IVs to maintain hydration, antibiotics to prevent the fatal secondary infections.
BUT it took massive medical interventions and hospitalization to lower the death rate, because the infection rate was unchanged. Death rates did not decline in the decade before the vaccine was introduced.
The chart doesn't include all the co-morbidities, like the 600,000 cases of measles blindness per year that continue.
I want to go on, but - dang - I know I'm not going to convince you. I just hope this convinces someone who might be swayed by your opinions.
(Not a pro-vax pharma whore. Watch your language.)
>Deaths declined over the years with improvements in supportive care: the introduction of O2 therapy, IVs to maintain hydration, antibiotics to prevent the fatal secondary infections.
No.deaths declined because of improvements in general health due to sanitation, nutrition, water treatment and food refrigeration
Antibiotics were never the treatment protocol for measles. The treatment protocol pre 1963 was "go home and rest for a few days get plenty of water" none of the nonsense you listed above
At least you didnt pretend that vaccines had anything to do with it like these overpaid pharma shills
>BUT it took massive medical interventions and hospitalization to lower the death rate, because the infection rate was unchanged. Death rates did not decline in the decade before the vaccine was introduced.
No.it did not. If American parents willingly took their kids to be infected at chicken pox and measels parties then you are in the twilight zone. Nothing you stated above is remotely true
>The chart doesn't include all the co-morbidities, like the 600,000 cases of measles blindness per year that continue
Because you just made it up. If mid century parents were willing to risk it at parties they werent concerned about blindness
>want to go on, but - dang - I know I'm not going to convince you. I just hope this convinces someone who might be swayed by your opinions.
Whats going to convince anyone is this graph
http://globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png
Sitcoms of that era poked fun at measles thats about as serious as it ever got
https://rumble.com/v4cgput-brady-bunch-measles-episode.html
>(Not a pro-vax pharma whore. Watch your language.)
Be quiet. You dont control my language. We have a 1st Amendment in this country. Go back to UK and have your idiotic cops visit you for social media posts. This is America we don't do that here idiot
People read your comments. You're very effective and unafraid of their diminutive attempts at browbeating. People need ammunition when speaking to these people. They gang up on Mothers in hospitals when they're alone. We can't stop.
We have to answer all these people. They don't understand why we're so effective. They won't engage honestly with us, they can't. they don't understand that if they would drop the talking points and acknowledge the dangers of vaccinations they'd actually GAIN credibility. They would lose the ability to mandate vaccines and availability protection would also be untenable but they would gain credibility and higher uptake. I hope they never understand it. Don't take your boot of their neck for a second!
You haven't responded to the 500 deaths per year that occurred before vaccines. You haven't responded to the 48,000 hospitalizations. Sure, lots of us got through it without severe disease. But those figures are too high. No one made the numbers up.
"Antibiotics were never the treatment protocol for measles." No indeed. As I stated, they used antibiotics "to prevent the fatal secondary infections," like pneumonia, which are often what kills kids with severe measles.
"Because you just made it up. If mid century parents were willing to risk it at parties they werent concerned about blindness." Did you even research measles blindness? Protocols for proventing blindness are part of treatment for severe measles. Just doesn't happen in low-income countries.
"You dont control my language." And obviously, neither do you. I agree that the 1st Amendment protects your right to be rude, though it's an unworthy use of the right.
"Go back to UK" Where did you get that? I'm an American.
Right. No more of this for me.
"Right. No more of this for me." - Typical.
You received a response to your claims. You dislike the reposne because you no longer have the moral high ground.
People understand YOU now the way you people understood 'us' for years. We used to trust a stethoscope and a white coat, not anymore. The most dangerous place on the planet is in a corporate pharmaceutical drug distribution facility (hospital).
There is no data because the definitions were changed. Now days the person would have to be 'unvaccinated' and 'linked' to an 'outbreak' and 'laboratory confirmed'. In the 50s probably they used a set of symptoms with none of these elimination criteria. Maybe they quarantined people in hospital to achieve the high hospitalization numbers and the 3 to 4 million cases were an estimate based on their belief in life long immunity and everyone getting 'it'. With 55 million children in 1955 divided by 17 years you would get 3.2 million children on average for each age. For 1957 it would be 3.5 million which would be the middle of the decade before 1963. For 1953 it would be 3.06 million and 1962 3.9.
https://mikestone.substack.com/p/measles-magic
What has changed in recent years is the keto trend. There is people saying modern fruit has too much sugar even tho a lot of it is not ripe and lacks sugar. They tell people sugar causes diabetes even tho diabetes is insulin resistance caused by fat and too little fruit. This means there is people avoiding juice and fruit. In the 60s vitamin C was popularized. People would have grape fruit for breakfast and orange juice. There was juicers so people could make their own juice and tropical fruits people had never tried before. Between 2016 and 2020 scurvy in children more than tripled from 8.2 to 26.7 cases per 100,000. Symptoms can include a rash that does not fade when you press a glass against it and sensitivity to light.
If people posting on social media were visited by cops in the US when they boasted about going out to shoot people, maybe there wouldn't be dozens of kids massacred each year in mass shootings.
And it's okay for you that THOUSANDS of children die every year as a result of taking the mmr vaccine. If a person wants to subject their child to shoddily made medical products that is up to them. But there can be no mandates of any kind moving forward. The liability protection for the pharmaceutical industry also has to go. Your marketing campaigns won't work anymore.
Yes, he's OK with kids dying from measles, not just in their hundreds, but in their hundreds of thousands.
I'm not a provax pharma whore, but I love to fuck them. Even better, several simultaneously!
What's your zodiac sign?
Tell us again why you think viruses do not exist, will you?
Why aren't you wearing your fruit avatar Mike S? Why be so selfish and irresponsible when you could be a guiding light?
Nice video. I'll use it when the opportunity comes up.
Reminding myself not to scroll through the comments for any of your articles. Don't the pre-vaccine statistics register at all?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHWuEXYzBbs
Parents interviewed. Their child didnt die from measles but pneumonia. measles was mild for all their other children
They STILL would NOT recommend MMR
Dr. Offit, too bad for you the fear tactics no longer work. Like most clerical classes, you overstepped the boundary of what was fair and reasonable into what is unfair and absurd. Your spell has been broken.
I dedicate the latest victory in Hawaii for Religious/Philisophical exemptions to vaccination to you, Dr. Offit. https://legiscan.com/HI/bill/HB1118/2025 - The bill has been tabled effectively killing it.
With respect, Dr. Offit, there is ample evidence (further back than the date if this video) that SARS-CoV-2 transmission is also predominantly airborne/aerosolized.
The issue has been measles. We all know the discussion is really about vaccination. I believe in vaccination. I question the aggressive schedule used in the US vs what we have in Europe. Why can't this be an uncontroversial statement?
https://dissolvingillusions.com/graphs-images/
What causes measles, Rombios?
Your MOTHER!!!
next question
But she's never been in Texas.
I have read many interesting articles on measles lately, Dr. Robert Malone's Substack, Dr. Peter MCCullough's Substack, The Defender Substack (Children's Health Defense). Candace Owens made some interesting comments referring to the CDC's own data on measles and the MMR vaccine. (candaceowensshow)
Candace Owen’s has some interesting takes. Have you seen the interview where she claims dinosaurs never existed? She believes any dinosaur bones that exist are fake and their existence is a conspiracy propagated by paleontologist.
you obviously have not listened to any of her “A Shot In The Dark” episodes . I think you must be reading Wikipedia about her 😂
Yeah I am not sure I have watched any “ A Shot in The Dark” episodes. I am speaking to her belief that dinosaurs are fake. Not Wikipedia. Video of Candace Owen’s claiming dinosaurs are gay and fake.
https://youtu.be/cBX2V9IMlSw?si=WnhjFSiDBlRJIdKS
https://youtube.com/shorts/7Lo7So5xW74?si=2YIli-JPmrx1a6X6
Wow!!!!
A level of stupidity I did not think existed....... Especially for such an "influential" misinformation spreader.
All garbage. Children’s Health Defense is RFK Jr’s outfit.
Love CHD
https://dissolvingillusions.com/graphs-images/
More garbage.
What causes measles, Rombios?
….is it a miasma?
You claim viruses don’t exist, so it must be, i guess.
Yep, germs are not real. Ignore the stuff you see under magnification. Stop shilling for Big Microscope!
the Galileo delusion!!!
Science is not a popularity contest. Truth isnt judged by consensus. Many research scientists correctly point out that what is being looked at is often cell debris AFTER or during an infection and does not represent a viral pathogen
Kochs Postulates must be met and many times its not.
In any case - who would know more about this subject - you ? some silly little basement dweller or someone like former Pfizer exec Dr Michael Yeadon (as one of many on this subject)
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/07/no_author/former-pfizer-vp-why-evidence-is-lacking-for-the-existence-of-covid-19-virus-or-any-other/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-pfizer-vp-michael-yeadon-explains-why-theres-no-evidence-for-the-existence-of-any-viruses/?utm_source=popular
So...no such thing as viruses, eh Rombios?
...And the Earth is flat, 9/11 was a hoax and the Pope is a reptilian overlord.
You got me there dude…..I am but a basement dweller.🤦♂️
How about reading articles from people who actually know about infections and vaccines?
I recommend "Immunologic", "Vaxopedia", "This week in virology" and "Your local epidemiologist", as well as Dr Offit.
Dr. Malone is a vaccinoligist, McCullough is a cardiologist with who has written over 600 peer reviewed studies, Owens is an intelligent mom who is just educating herself - doesn't take a scientist to read
It’s true, Candace Owen’s is a mom. Probably a good one too. She has intelligence but she demonstrates absolute ignorance and stupidity on a regular basis too. Just curious. Do you agree with her that dinosaurs are fake and a conspiracy? Do you agree with her that the earth is flat or that the moon landing was faked?
😂😂😂
Afraid to answer that, I see…
Malone is a research chemical scientist who was involved in mRNA work over 10 years ago. Miffed at his failure to be recognised with a Nobel prize (there were about 150 scientists over the years who contributed to development), he turned into a bitter antivaxer.
He knows nothing about measles or infection epidemiology and nothing about virology.
McCullough is a former cardiologist who slipped down the rabbit hole of antivax and covid contrarian ideology. He too knows zero about measles/viruses, infectious childhood diseases, virology or epidemiology. Since turning antivax he has had several of his papers retracted.
Candace Owen’s thinks dinosaurs are a hoax and that space travel and the moon landings are fake. I don’t think I’ll take her word on anything.
And each one makes big bank off Bo-gullibles. The adulation rouses their limp dicks - even Caleb's.
McCullough also now sells herbal supplements claiming to rid the body of spike proteins and Covid for only $65 a month. You know, like a true grifter…..I mean Doctor.
https://www.twc.health/products/long-haul-formula
Candace Owens gave my chimpanzee syphilis, then doxxed my children on twitter. Malone stole my mom's Oxy, and my 12 year old daughter's underwear.
McCullough used my mom's credit cards to run up tens of thousands of dollars in fraudulent charges - And then he billed her $2950 for a "telemedicine consultation."
Candace Owens gave my three Rottweilers syphilis, then doxxed my children on YouTube and twitter, bringing them massive harassment and death threats.
Malone stole my mom's Percocet and oxy, and my tween daughter's underwear.
McCullough used three of mom's credit cards to run up tens of thousands of dollars in fraudulent charges - And then he billed her $2950 for a "telemedicine consultation."
Intelligent comments
More intelligent than anything from Candace Owens, anyhow.
Each bit more plausible than anything those malignant grifters shit out.
???