Paul Offit lays out the disturbing facts with clarity and restraint, but perhaps too much restraint when it comes to Senator Cassidy. Cassidy didn’t just fail to stop RFK Jr. He enabled him. At every critical moment, he offered vague reassurances or posted toothless remarks on social media while Kennedy dismantled vaccine oversight, spread deadly misinformation, and replaced scientific experts with ideologues. This isn’t just about ineffectiveness or misplaced trust. Cassidy knew Kennedy’s history. He made a show of extracting promises, then looked the other way as every single one was broken. The road to this public health disaster wasn’t just paved with good intentions. It was paved with cowardice, complicity, and a refusal to confront a dangerous charlatan masquerading as a public servant.
I couldn't be happier we finally have someone in charge that is pro SAFE vaccines instead of just pro vaccine in order to line their pockets with revolving door jobs, conflicts of interest and manipulated data. I'm more than willing to accept that he may be wrong about a few things as long as we study things CORRECTLY and determine that via legitimate honest study. God bless RFK Jr. The rest of you are doomed to hell.
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
We're all "pharma shills," cuntface. Even me. I'm against overly broad vaccine requirements. But you're just a deranged parrot. Haven't looked at your profile, but guaranteed - you're a screeching magatard.
Ooooo you hurt my feelings. Guaranteed you're a whining LIBTARD. Fortunately, your ilk are being relegated to the ashbin of history. Populism of the MAGA variety is rising across the world! Good-fukin-riddance!
You are starting from the premise that all events that occur following a vaccination are caused by the vaccine. How do you suggest that such a system would work?
That graphic, which is often circulated by vaccine deniers, is deeply misleading, and so is the quote from Dr. Weil. It relies on a common but deceptive tactic: confusing mortality rates with disease incidence.
It is true that death rates declined before vaccines, thanks to improved sanitation, nutrition, and medical care. But millions of people were still getting sick from diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough until vaccines were introduced.
Once vaccines became widely available, the incidence of these diseases collapsed. Measles alone infected millions annually until the 1960s. After vaccination, cases plummeted. The same pattern followed with polio, diphtheria, and others.
If sanitation alone were sufficient, we would not see disease resurgence when vaccination rates fall. But we do.
Pointing to diseases like scarlet fever or typhoid, which declined without vaccines, misses the point. Those illnesses respond to water and food safety. Airborne diseases like measles require immunization to stop their spread.
Vaccines did not just save lives. They prevented paralysis, brain damage, hospitalizations, and lifelong disability. They did not work alone, but they were the turning point.
Dismissing their role distorts history and undermines public health.
>That graphic, which is often circulated by vaccine deniers, is deeply misleading, and so is the quote from Dr. Weil. It relies on a common but deceptive tactic: confusing mortality rates with disease incidence.
That's shifting the goal post. disease incidence is irrelevant because it's subject to definition/classification
A kid with a running nose might be classified as having a cold, flu, etc.
When my kids have sniffles during flu season. am not concerned it would kill them
That's why mortality rate matters. it is the ONLY thing that matters
>It is true that death rates declined before vaccines, thanks to improved sanitation, nutrition, and medical care.
Then why did you begin your comment with misleading "?
>But millions of people were still getting sick from diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough until vaccines were introduced.
That's a lie.
Polio symptoms for example have been reclassified since the vaccine was introduced (meningitis, acute flaccid paralysis etc) SPECIFICALLY to distract from the ineffectiveness of that vaccine
we know that Polio is caused not by a virus but by lead arsenate and ddt pesticides and largely went away after their ban in developed countries. (The lie was promoted largely to shield chemical companies from devastating liability lawsuits)
But remained in developing countries (India Pakistan Nigeria etc) where such pesticides were still in use
>Once vaccines became widely available, the incidence of these diseases collapsed.
That's a lie. a plot of mortality rates shows a 97% drop BEFORE vaccines were introduced. So you cant use the word "collapsed" there after
>After vaccination, cases plummeted. The same pattern followed with polio, diphtheria, and others.
Wrong again. The trend mirrors Scarlet Fever for which no vaccine has ever been introduced at that time period.
Vaccines had nothing to do with the 98% drop in mortality rates
>If sanitation alone were sufficient, we would not see disease resurgence when vaccination rates fall. But we do.
that's from VACCINATED cohorts
#Harvard-Westlake students were vaccinated. Dozens caught whooping cough anyway
>Pointing to diseases like scarlet fever or typhoid, which declined without vaccines, misses the point.
Inconvenient facts for you maybe
>Airborne diseases like measles require immunization to stop their spread.
That's garbage. The path of most diseases is gastro intestinal or respiratory. through the bodies natural filters
>They prevented paralysis, brain damage, hospitalizations, and lifelong disability.
The funny thing about this statement is that these are ALL illnesses CAUSED BY VACCINES for which their manufacturers are indemnified
>Dismissing their role distorts history and undermines public health.
You are the one undermining public health supporting the very drugs that have caused the massive increase in disability, chronic illnesses and death - plaguing young children
A child with a runny nose would most likely be diagnosed with a viral upper respiratory tract infection, as that is an innate immune system response. If they had a fever, ditto. If they became seriously unwell then that changes the diagnosis, if they develop a rash then the differential is meningitis, measles, scarlet fever, or chicken pox depending on the nature of the rash. If they develop a cough and have difficulty in breathing then the differential is pertussis or bronchiolitis or pneumonia depending on the signs and symptoms.
Measles is an upper respiratory infection, as is rubella and many others, including diphtheria. Polio is spread via the orofaecal route as are the various forms of gastroenteritis including clostridium difficile.
With regards to polio, it actually increased with improved sanitation. Infants don’t develop paralysis if infected with poliovirus, but older children can and do. Before the improvement in sanitation babies and infants were exposed to poliovirus and developed immunity to it. However, when sanitation improved they were no longer exposed at an early age, thus when they were exposed later in life they developed serious complications.
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
it is challenging when candidates for appointments make pledges to secure votes and then do exactly the opposite -- unfortunately there is no way of rescinding the votes/appointment from the Senate
The path of destruction and death being paved by RFK Jr was entirely predictable. Those who trusted and voted for his confirmation are fully complicit. Senator Cassidy is the most culpable. There can be no hiding behind an “I was lied to” defense. RFK Jr has always been the worst kind of dangerous, and now sits at the helm of the titanic.
This has been the case for pretty much every Trump nominee. The approval process is fatally flawed since there are no remedies when appointees have proven to have lied.
He should have known RFK Jr was lying to him and voted "no". RFK has never deviated, in over 20 years, from his wacky views and dangerous demonization of vaccines. Why would he tell the truth about what he planned to do?
It's not as if Cassidy, a medical doctor, did not know that a man who has been a pathological liar for 20 years would continue to be a pathological liar.
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
For everyone else, here are the reasons why "the nubes" graphs are deceitful:
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John Stiller:
"That graphic, which is often circulated by vaccine deniers, is deeply misleading, and so is the quote from Dr. Weil. It relies on a common but deceptive tactic: confusing mortality rates with disease incidence.
It is true that death rates declined before vaccines, thanks to improved sanitation, nutrition, and medical care. But millions of people were still getting sick from diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough until vaccines were introduced.
Once vaccines became widely available, the incidence of these diseases collapsed. Measles alone infected millions annually until the 1960s. After vaccination, cases plummeted. The same pattern followed with polio, diphtheria, and others.
If sanitation alone were sufficient, we would not see disease resurgence when vaccination rates fall. But we do.
Pointing to diseases like scarlet fever or typhoid, which declined without vaccines, misses the point. Those illnesses respond to water and food safety. Airborne diseases like measles require immunization to stop their spread.
Vaccines did not just save lives. They prevented paralysis, brain damage, hospitalizations, and lifelong disability. They did not work alone, but they were the turning point.
Dismissing their role distorts history and undermines public health".
>Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.
>Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.
This is America. We have thousands of independent labs that can run these studies and generate the conclusions without the meddling of the public health agencies or their pharmaceutical cohorts.
the point is that - the agency whose leadership (in at least two occassions) have resigned over massive conflicts of interest (including purchasing stock options in pharmaceutical companies the manufacture vaccines) and in at least once case - leaving the CDC to join Merck - CANNOT BE THE OVERSEERS of any such study such as the above.
The dismantling of the immunization program bit by bit is heartbreaking , sickening, and maddening. How are those of us who understand the science and the health protection going to watch people needlessly suffer because of these horrible lies?
>Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.
>Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.
Its some equivalent health ministry in Australia and New Zealand.
I had a book rombios sent me that had similar data from Japan and Germany over that same time period
On our side its covered in great detail by the Data Scientist Roman Bystrianyk in "Dissolving Illusions" and a lot of his references are from the U.S Bureau of the Census, Vital Records and Health Data Development from health agencies across our 50 states - well - 48 at that time the data begun collection
The CDC intensely expanded the childhood vaccine schedule after the 1986 bill was passed that removed liability from vaccine manufacturers. Since then our our children’s overall health outcomes have continued to worsen.
You need to brush up on what the 1986 legislation actually does and says.
If a child experiences an adverse event within a certain period of time following a vaccination, then the parents can make a claim for compensation to the federal government.
The level of proof required is lower than that for civil lawsuits, there’s no balance of probabilities, just the temporal association of event and vaccination within the time frame.
This does not mean that the pharmaceutical companies get off Scot free as they pay an excise tax on each and every dose of the vaccines to the Federal government to pay for this.
The legislation and its explanation are online, such that a British citizen like myself can read it and understand it. Don’t listen to the propaganda coming from certain people in the USA.
…for any possible reaction within the time frame already listed on the table of accepted possible reactions, the claim will be automatically accepted and compensated (a “table” claim”)
For a possible reaction NOT listed on the table, the claim will be accepted “on the balance of probability”, rather than usual requirements in civil suits for “beyond all reasonable doubt”.
IE still a very low threshold of legal proof.
It’s surprising how UK citizens like us know far more about these subjects than do so many of those in the US, and more than the antivaxers. 😉
A cynic might say that as this legislation adversely affects the income of lawyers who take on vaccine injury cases and therefore it may be in their interests to present it as not being able to sue the pharmaceutical companies.
The lawyers view NVICP claims as money for old rope. They push plaintiffs to claim for anything, and for them it’s a no lose scenario… if the claim succeeds, they get expenses plus about a third of the compensation money; if the claim is thrown out, they still get all expenses and legal fees paid.
1. Gun violence (now the commonest cause of death in children) …Does vaccination cause this? How?
2. Obesity (Again, how do vaccines cause this?)
3. Mental health (see above)
4. Asthma rates have increased (cause is likely environmental, with pollution and higher allergen exposures, and don’t forget the hygiene hypothesis), But rates have declined over the last 10 years.
5. Diabetes (due to higher rates of gestational diabetes (obesity in mothers) and viral infections in childhood (eg Covid doubles the risk of infantile diabetes)
6. ADHD/ASD (which have been shown to be unrelated to vaccination, though no doubt you will disagree). We can explore the reasons for this if you wish.
What has improved since vaccines were ramped up in the 80s? Let’s see…we have:
1. Lower rates of infectious diseases and vaccines preventable infections (thanks vaccines!)
2. Lower Infant mortality rates (thanks in major part to #1 above)
Dr. Offit, what do we do? Other than contacting our reps and talking about this publicly (both of which I've done, and I know many others have, too), I'm at a loss.
American children will get sequelae for life or die, caused by vaccine-preventable diseases. This will have silent costs at so many levels.
We’re talking about undoing all the progress America has made in protecting against infectious diseases. And it’s happening because the government has been taken over by religious fanatics.
Those that can't bring themselves to ever question the safety or efficacy of a vaccine. They blindly follow the words of the "experts" in the same way a religious fundamentalist follows the words of their religious or spiritual leaders.
While tribalism is quite real (people siding with their in-group), it's more than a little short-sighted, much less disingenuous to claim most are "blindly following" the advice of experts. There's this thing called evidence. Maybe you're familiar with it. (Or maybe not). Anyone who "blindly accepts" anything is doing it wrong. Ask for and expect evidence. (Preferably, evidence that withstands rigorous scrutiny.) It's reasonable to proportion your understanding to the evidence. In fact, it's the only reasonable choice.
But the removal of the rotavirus vaccine (and others) is a concern for Offits $$$ bottom line. Healthy kids make him irrelevant revenue wise and virtue signaling size
Difficult to believe unless he was already banned under a different name. Aldous-Anubis is aggressively, intrusively offensive, Wag Daddell, the crazy cuntopractor ... SwampCrazy is a girl scout in comparison.
If you're not seeing his turds here, it could be that someone else in the threads blocked you...
My comment disappeared while half-way through writing it - along with his, and then I noticed all his comments had disappeared. All I'd said prior to that was "hey, Yankee get back to the swamp".
The fact that Cassidy is religious has nothing to do with anything. You don’t need a belief in invisible overlords to know it is wrong for children to suffer and die needlessly. His religious beliefs are what has led to this, in my opinion. For religious fundamentalists, every bad thing that happens is happening because “everything happens for a reason”, instead of it being because you have made some incredibly foolish decisions and because you have abandoned your responsibility to your patients and to your constituents out of concern you might get called a “loser” by Donald Trump.
The fact that he describes himself as "religious," just highlights his evil, self-serving hypocrisy. Cassidy knew exactly what he was enabling, and deceitfully helped to sell it.
Paul Offit lays out the disturbing facts with clarity and restraint, but perhaps too much restraint when it comes to Senator Cassidy. Cassidy didn’t just fail to stop RFK Jr. He enabled him. At every critical moment, he offered vague reassurances or posted toothless remarks on social media while Kennedy dismantled vaccine oversight, spread deadly misinformation, and replaced scientific experts with ideologues. This isn’t just about ineffectiveness or misplaced trust. Cassidy knew Kennedy’s history. He made a show of extracting promises, then looked the other way as every single one was broken. The road to this public health disaster wasn’t just paved with good intentions. It was paved with cowardice, complicity, and a refusal to confront a dangerous charlatan masquerading as a public servant.
RFK jr. is a grifter, plain and simple. Why is anybody surprised that he lied to a panel of senators?
Cassidy, like Kennedy, betrayed us all.
Cassidy is a weasel and a worm. If he had any integrity he would resign his medical license.
I couldn't be happier we finally have someone in charge that is pro SAFE vaccines instead of just pro vaccine in order to line their pockets with revolving door jobs, conflicts of interest and manipulated data. I'm more than willing to accept that he may be wrong about a few things as long as we study things CORRECTLY and determine that via legitimate honest study. God bless RFK Jr. The rest of you are doomed to hell.
That’s a hilarious comment!
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
A "message" from Freaky Franny.
The silly thing thinks it's Friday.
Most of us don’t believe in hell, but methinks you and RFK will see each other there!
So you don't support safe.drugs? You want pharm to continue to hold blanket immunity...
Interesting
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
Another Water Closet (toilet) comment.
"we finally have someone in charge that is pro SAFE vaccines"
That is just another one of his many lies.
When you think no vaccines are safe, then pro-safe vaccines = ANTIVAX.
" I'm more than willing to accept that he may be wrong..."
Maybe wrong?
He IS wrong and demonstrably so.
"...about a few things"
A few things?
He is wrong about EVERYTHING!
"RFK Jr. ... doomed to hell."
Same sentiment here.
I only wish there was one for lying antivax arseholes like RFK junior,
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
We're all "pharma shills," cuntface. Even me. I'm against overly broad vaccine requirements. But you're just a deranged parrot. Haven't looked at your profile, but guaranteed - you're a screeching magatard.
Ooooo you hurt my feelings. Guaranteed you're a whining LIBTARD. Fortunately, your ilk are being relegated to the ashbin of history. Populism of the MAGA variety is rising across the world! Good-fukin-riddance!
Cool story, magatard.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
Thank you!
That was Die Barnett thanking the blocked toilet for regurgitating shit all over her.
Offit never addresses vaccines injuries and the dire need for an excellent effective vaccine injury capture system.
You are starting from the premise that all events that occur following a vaccination are caused by the vaccine. How do you suggest that such a system would work?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
Cassidy bragged on Instagram that he voted for all of trump's cabinet nominees. He has prioritized his senate career over his medical ethics.
Hammer on the nail.
It just keeps getting worse. Continue to speak out, Dr. Offit, some of us are listening.
Only the deluded
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
That graphic, which is often circulated by vaccine deniers, is deeply misleading, and so is the quote from Dr. Weil. It relies on a common but deceptive tactic: confusing mortality rates with disease incidence.
It is true that death rates declined before vaccines, thanks to improved sanitation, nutrition, and medical care. But millions of people were still getting sick from diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough until vaccines were introduced.
Once vaccines became widely available, the incidence of these diseases collapsed. Measles alone infected millions annually until the 1960s. After vaccination, cases plummeted. The same pattern followed with polio, diphtheria, and others.
If sanitation alone were sufficient, we would not see disease resurgence when vaccination rates fall. But we do.
Pointing to diseases like scarlet fever or typhoid, which declined without vaccines, misses the point. Those illnesses respond to water and food safety. Airborne diseases like measles require immunization to stop their spread.
Vaccines did not just save lives. They prevented paralysis, brain damage, hospitalizations, and lifelong disability. They did not work alone, but they were the turning point.
Dismissing their role distorts history and undermines public health.
>That graphic, which is often circulated by vaccine deniers, is deeply misleading, and so is the quote from Dr. Weil. It relies on a common but deceptive tactic: confusing mortality rates with disease incidence.
That's shifting the goal post. disease incidence is irrelevant because it's subject to definition/classification
A kid with a running nose might be classified as having a cold, flu, etc.
When my kids have sniffles during flu season. am not concerned it would kill them
That's why mortality rate matters. it is the ONLY thing that matters
>It is true that death rates declined before vaccines, thanks to improved sanitation, nutrition, and medical care.
Then why did you begin your comment with misleading "?
>But millions of people were still getting sick from diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough until vaccines were introduced.
That's a lie.
Polio symptoms for example have been reclassified since the vaccine was introduced (meningitis, acute flaccid paralysis etc) SPECIFICALLY to distract from the ineffectiveness of that vaccine
we know that Polio is caused not by a virus but by lead arsenate and ddt pesticides and largely went away after their ban in developed countries. (The lie was promoted largely to shield chemical companies from devastating liability lawsuits)
But remained in developing countries (India Pakistan Nigeria etc) where such pesticides were still in use
>Once vaccines became widely available, the incidence of these diseases collapsed.
That's a lie. a plot of mortality rates shows a 97% drop BEFORE vaccines were introduced. So you cant use the word "collapsed" there after
>After vaccination, cases plummeted. The same pattern followed with polio, diphtheria, and others.
Wrong again. The trend mirrors Scarlet Fever for which no vaccine has ever been introduced at that time period.
Vaccines had nothing to do with the 98% drop in mortality rates
>If sanitation alone were sufficient, we would not see disease resurgence when vaccination rates fall. But we do.
that's from VACCINATED cohorts
#Harvard-Westlake students were vaccinated. Dozens caught whooping cough anyway
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-whooping-cough-vaccine-20190316-story.html
>Pointing to diseases like scarlet fever or typhoid, which declined without vaccines, misses the point.
Inconvenient facts for you maybe
>Airborne diseases like measles require immunization to stop their spread.
That's garbage. The path of most diseases is gastro intestinal or respiratory. through the bodies natural filters
>They prevented paralysis, brain damage, hospitalizations, and lifelong disability.
The funny thing about this statement is that these are ALL illnesses CAUSED BY VACCINES for which their manufacturers are indemnified
>Dismissing their role distorts history and undermines public health.
You are the one undermining public health supporting the very drugs that have caused the massive increase in disability, chronic illnesses and death - plaguing young children
A child with a runny nose would most likely be diagnosed with a viral upper respiratory tract infection, as that is an innate immune system response. If they had a fever, ditto. If they became seriously unwell then that changes the diagnosis, if they develop a rash then the differential is meningitis, measles, scarlet fever, or chicken pox depending on the nature of the rash. If they develop a cough and have difficulty in breathing then the differential is pertussis or bronchiolitis or pneumonia depending on the signs and symptoms.
Measles is an upper respiratory infection, as is rubella and many others, including diphtheria. Polio is spread via the orofaecal route as are the various forms of gastroenteritis including clostridium difficile.
With regards to polio, it actually increased with improved sanitation. Infants don’t develop paralysis if infected with poliovirus, but older children can and do. Before the improvement in sanitation babies and infants were exposed to poliovirus and developed immunity to it. However, when sanitation improved they were no longer exposed at an early age, thus when they were exposed later in life they developed serious complications.
You're rewarding one of Offit's top trolls.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
Do viruses exist? Yes or no? (23rd time of asking)
Have you stopped beating your wife ? Yes or No (22 nd time asking)
I answered your question multiple times now.
So please answer mine now…why do you think viruses do not exist?
We need to address our chronic disease health crisis. We should not exclude vaccines as a potential cause.
Yes, "Vaclib" are certainly that!
Pot - Kettle - African American
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
Paste that again, cuntlapper.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
Excellent summary. Vance also vowed to stand by Cassidy and that never happened.
it is challenging when candidates for appointments make pledges to secure votes and then do exactly the opposite -- unfortunately there is no way of rescinding the votes/appointment from the Senate
The path of destruction and death being paved by RFK Jr was entirely predictable. Those who trusted and voted for his confirmation are fully complicit. Senator Cassidy is the most culpable. There can be no hiding behind an “I was lied to” defense. RFK Jr has always been the worst kind of dangerous, and now sits at the helm of the titanic.
This has been the case for pretty much every Trump nominee. The approval process is fatally flawed since there are no remedies when appointees have proven to have lied.
He should have known RFK Jr was lying to him and voted "no". RFK has never deviated, in over 20 years, from his wacky views and dangerous demonization of vaccines. Why would he tell the truth about what he planned to do?
Cassidy's only "challenge" was deciding to have a modicum of integrity. He failed miserably.
It's not as if Cassidy, a medical doctor, did not know that a man who has been a pathological liar for 20 years would continue to be a pathological liar.
I guess we have to wait until more children die of preventable infectious diseases.
We do not have an infectious disease crisis. We have a chronic disease health crisis. More pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines are not the answer.
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
NOTHING to do with vaccines gramps
Anubis keeps linking to the repeatedly debunked lying graphs.
It's been explained to him why they are fake, but he either doesn't get it, or he is lying
The ACIP board (advisory committee on immunization practices) was fired because they were utterly just a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. In 2002 the government oversite committee in the United States Congress held hearings about that board and they said that 97% of the people on that ACIP board had undisclosed conflicts. Many of them had disclosed conflicts as well. It gave an example. There were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine. They were working for the companies that made the vaccine, or they were receiving grants to do clinical trials on that vaccine… they all had overwhelming financial interests.
One of the people on that board was THIS PHARMA SHILL Paul Offit, who voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule, while he had a rotavirus vaccine in development!!
The one that he and they voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that’s often lethal, called Intussusception, that’s agonizingly painful when intestines kind of tie up against each other. It kills children on occasion.
That vaccine was pulled the following year and his vaccine then replaced it. He was still on the committee, he didn't vote on that, but he was still on the committee. He voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. He and his business partners, Stanley Plotkin and others sold that vaccine to Merck for $186 million. He told Newsweek that he’d "won the lottery." It's been said of him that he voted himself rich! So that kind of conflict was typical in that committee.
The Office of Inspector General investigated, and they said this was a disaster, it needed change. Congress investigated and said it needed change. They did nothing.
The most glaring example of medical malpractice by this group is that they approved all these vaccines (went from 11 to 69 to 92 vaccines in 1986), and not one of them had a pre-licensing safety trial that involved up placebo, a true placebo. And so all those other vaccines were ushered in without safety studies, and that means nobody understands the risk profile of those products.
It's corruption. It's because of agency capture. It's because if you can get your vaccine on the schedule, it's generally typically about a billion dollars a year for your company, because you now have a trapped market, with no downside.
If you can get that recommendation, you now got a billion dollars in lease revenues every year forever. So there was a Gold Rush to add new vaccines to the schedule. And ACIP never turned away a single vaccine. Every one that was that came to them, they recommended.
And a lot of these vaccines are not even casually contagious. I mean, they recommend that the Hepatitis B vaccine for babies when they're an hour old, the first day of life.
WTF?? Paul Offit is a CORRUPT BigPharma Sock Puppet.
A 'copy and paste" message from Freaky Franny, and it's not even Friday.
Paste it again, trump-stump-sucker.
I was about to say the same thing.
This is a dishonest "copy and paste" job from Freaky Franny
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
Are you going to identify this arsehole or not, son.
If not, please piss off with your boringly repetitive stupid links.
Nothing has been debunked. You can't debunk facts. That's not how this works
The graphs are junk, son, and you know it.
You are pretty dumb, but you can't be THAT dumb!
ANTIVAXXER = DECEIVER = KILLER
For everyone else, here are the reasons why "the nubes" graphs are deceitful:
----------------------------
John Stiller:
"That graphic, which is often circulated by vaccine deniers, is deeply misleading, and so is the quote from Dr. Weil. It relies on a common but deceptive tactic: confusing mortality rates with disease incidence.
It is true that death rates declined before vaccines, thanks to improved sanitation, nutrition, and medical care. But millions of people were still getting sick from diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough until vaccines were introduced.
Once vaccines became widely available, the incidence of these diseases collapsed. Measles alone infected millions annually until the 1960s. After vaccination, cases plummeted. The same pattern followed with polio, diphtheria, and others.
If sanitation alone were sufficient, we would not see disease resurgence when vaccination rates fall. But we do.
Pointing to diseases like scarlet fever or typhoid, which declined without vaccines, misses the point. Those illnesses respond to water and food safety. Airborne diseases like measles require immunization to stop their spread.
Vaccines did not just save lives. They prevented paralysis, brain damage, hospitalizations, and lifelong disability. They did not work alone, but they were the turning point.
Dismissing their role distorts history and undermines public health".
----------------------------
ANTIVAXXER = DECEIVER = KILLER
Your lies are junk and you know it. Many of your ilk routinely comment on that mortality rate post
Here is one. Maybe you should DM's him so you can get your stories in sync
https://substack.com/@johnstiller/note/c-131513228
>You are pretty dumb, but you can't be THAT dumb!
Guess YOUD know
The Nube <-- "Your lies are junk and you know it"
"Guess YOUD know"
Goddamn Grammarless Git
"https://substack.com/@johnstiller/note/c-131513228"
Spot on comment, son.
And it aligns perfectly with what I and others have said.
What didn't you understand?
Or are you just too goddamn stupid to identify what you don't understand?
Everything to do with vaccines, Anubis....
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/209448
>Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.
>Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.
Bwahaaaa clown 🤡 world
So? Who else would collate public health info on disease incidence in the US?
…The DOD? …DOGE?
are you daft?
This is America. We have thousands of independent labs that can run these studies and generate the conclusions without the meddling of the public health agencies or their pharmaceutical cohorts.
the point is that - the agency whose leadership (in at least two occassions) have resigned over massive conflicts of interest (including purchasing stock options in pharmaceutical companies the manufacture vaccines) and in at least once case - leaving the CDC to join Merck - CANNOT BE THE OVERSEERS of any such study such as the above.
You fool. Laboratories run tests, they don’t collect epidemiological stats or public health information. That’s the role of the CDC.
Who collected and collated the information in your ridiculous vaclib charts?
The dismantling of the immunization program bit by bit is heartbreaking , sickening, and maddening. How are those of us who understand the science and the health protection going to watch people needlessly suffer because of these horrible lies?
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
Stop pretending you care. It's your jobs and stock options you are worried about
Let's keep it a buck
The importance of vaccines:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/209448
>Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.
>Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.
Bwahaaasa clown 🤡 world
A study
Designed by
Paid for by
Edited by
Promoted by
The very corrupt agencies we are fighting against top being the CDC
Nice try
And what agency produced the data used by vaclib?
Am an American - so its HHS
You are Brit - so what is it - the NHS ?
Its some equivalent health ministry in Australia and New Zealand.
I had a book rombios sent me that had similar data from Japan and Germany over that same time period
On our side its covered in great detail by the Data Scientist Roman Bystrianyk in "Dissolving Illusions" and a lot of his references are from the U.S Bureau of the Census, Vital Records and Health Data Development from health agencies across our 50 states - well - 48 at that time the data begun collection
What agency produced the data used by vaclib for their fake charts?
Don’t you know?
…Is that why you can’t answer?
Fictional sources like “Vital Records” and “Health Data Development” won’t do I’m afraid….
The CDC intensely expanded the childhood vaccine schedule after the 1986 bill was passed that removed liability from vaccine manufacturers. Since then our our children’s overall health outcomes have continued to worsen.
You need to brush up on what the 1986 legislation actually does and says.
If a child experiences an adverse event within a certain period of time following a vaccination, then the parents can make a claim for compensation to the federal government.
The level of proof required is lower than that for civil lawsuits, there’s no balance of probabilities, just the temporal association of event and vaccination within the time frame.
This does not mean that the pharmaceutical companies get off Scot free as they pay an excise tax on each and every dose of the vaccines to the Federal government to pay for this.
The legislation and its explanation are online, such that a British citizen like myself can read it and understand it. Don’t listen to the propaganda coming from certain people in the USA.
Exactly.
But slight clarification on the NVCIP ….
…for any possible reaction within the time frame already listed on the table of accepted possible reactions, the claim will be automatically accepted and compensated (a “table” claim”)
For a possible reaction NOT listed on the table, the claim will be accepted “on the balance of probability”, rather than usual requirements in civil suits for “beyond all reasonable doubt”.
IE still a very low threshold of legal proof.
It’s surprising how UK citizens like us know far more about these subjects than do so many of those in the US, and more than the antivaxers. 😉
A cynic might say that as this legislation adversely affects the income of lawyers who take on vaccine injury cases and therefore it may be in their interests to present it as not being able to sue the pharmaceutical companies.
The lawyers view NVICP claims as money for old rope. They push plaintiffs to claim for anything, and for them it’s a no lose scenario… if the claim succeeds, they get expenses plus about a third of the compensation money; if the claim is thrown out, they still get all expenses and legal fees paid.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
What indices are you considering?
The main ones which have worsened are:
1. Gun violence (now the commonest cause of death in children) …Does vaccination cause this? How?
2. Obesity (Again, how do vaccines cause this?)
3. Mental health (see above)
4. Asthma rates have increased (cause is likely environmental, with pollution and higher allergen exposures, and don’t forget the hygiene hypothesis), But rates have declined over the last 10 years.
5. Diabetes (due to higher rates of gestational diabetes (obesity in mothers) and viral infections in childhood (eg Covid doubles the risk of infantile diabetes)
6. ADHD/ASD (which have been shown to be unrelated to vaccination, though no doubt you will disagree). We can explore the reasons for this if you wish.
What has improved since vaccines were ramped up in the 80s? Let’s see…we have:
1. Lower rates of infectious diseases and vaccines preventable infections (thanks vaccines!)
2. Lower Infant mortality rates (thanks in major part to #1 above)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
Rather than spamming links to instagram, might you consider articulating your response in words of your own?
...If you can string some together, that is?
Dr. Offit, what do we do? Other than contacting our reps and talking about this publicly (both of which I've done, and I know many others have, too), I'm at a loss.
Elections have consequences. Sitdown and be quiet will RFKjr restores order to this broken system
What are you really afraid of?
American children will get sequelae for life or die, caused by vaccine-preventable diseases. This will have silent costs at so many levels.
We’re talking about undoing all the progress America has made in protecting against infectious diseases. And it’s happening because the government has been taken over by religious fanatics.
Some would say that those with fundamentalist views of vaccines are not dissimilar to those with fundamentalist religious views.
What are "fundamentalist views of vaccines?"
Those that can't bring themselves to ever question the safety or efficacy of a vaccine. They blindly follow the words of the "experts" in the same way a religious fundamentalist follows the words of their religious or spiritual leaders.
Stop shitting on Christianity, sanctimonious contrarian ignoramus.
You couldn't beclown yourself more if you wanted to.
Thanks for proving my point.
While tribalism is quite real (people siding with their in-group), it's more than a little short-sighted, much less disingenuous to claim most are "blindly following" the advice of experts. There's this thing called evidence. Maybe you're familiar with it. (Or maybe not). Anyone who "blindly accepts" anything is doing it wrong. Ask for and expect evidence. (Preferably, evidence that withstands rigorous scrutiny.) It's reasonable to proportion your understanding to the evidence. In fact, it's the only reasonable choice.
Your honest effort at conversation is wasted on swamp thing. Give him what he deserves, then do the next nutter.
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
Here are the facts
Except they’re supported by decades of science.
Selective science.
Wrong.
If only...
Get back in the swamp, Yankee.
Thanks for proving my point.
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
Hardly
He's afraid because he's got clear conflicts of interest
Give that tired, untrue bullshit a break, pugfucker, or my babies will scream all night in your living nightmare.
He derives millions from the rotavirus vaccine he coinvented and currently on the CDC childhood schedule
Water Closet ("the toilet") is back.
https://stopantivaxpropaganda.substack.com/p/did-paul-offit-vote-to-add-a-vaccine
Lots more dead children. That's what Offit fears. As do all true Christians.
No he fears the loss of the revenue and prestige he derives from his patented rotavirus vaccine and his MERCK appointed chair at CHOP
Nothing more
Nothing more than the fact that the removal of the rotavirus vaccine would result in a lot of dead kids.
It all comes back to fear of dead kids. Just like all true Christians.
In bizarro world maybe
But the removal of the rotavirus vaccine (and others) is a concern for Offits $$$ bottom line. Healthy kids make him irrelevant revenue wise and virtue signaling size
Offit makes nada from the rotavirus vaccine. CHOP sold off the patent 15 years ago.
Wake up, fool!
Incorrect. He takes in millions that's why he's refused all requests for financial disclosures and ties
Wow. At least you admit that caring about whether children live or die is “bizarro” to you. Get lost, Satan.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLYIW-TT4jK/
What are you really against, you pussy-ass bitch? You're the hysterical alarmist that strokes to delusions.
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
Anubis…do viruses exist?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Replied to already. I haven’t.
Your turn: Do viruses exist?
Then you should seek help for domestic violence
It looks like Swamp_Yankee just got banned.
Difficult to believe unless he was already banned under a different name. Aldous-Anubis is aggressively, intrusively offensive, Wag Daddell, the crazy cuntopractor ... SwampCrazy is a girl scout in comparison.
If you're not seeing his turds here, it could be that someone else in the threads blocked you...
My comment disappeared while half-way through writing it - along with his, and then I noticed all his comments had disappeared. All I'd said prior to that was "hey, Yankee get back to the swamp".
Try this link to one of its "Notes;"
https://substack.com/@swampyankee1/note/c-131003332
"Note not available"
Sounds like he may have blocked you - while you were writing that comment - maybe?
What do you see when you check out his profile at this link: https://substack.com/@swampyankee1
If he did ... weird. Because I write some nasty (but well deserved) stuff to him.
Yes, blocked. Must have a really thin skin.
Your side clones antivax account names whilst pretending to be provax
It's laughable. All part of the delusion that is believing that vaccines are safe and effective
vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
" vaccines are safe and effective'
You got that bit right, son. |:
>All part of the delusion that is believing that vaccines are safe and effective
Did you skip that part?
"vaccines are safe and effective'
You got that part right, son. |:
Anubis <-- "All part of the delusion"
Yet it's one of you cloning my account name and avatar in a bid to muddy the waters
You'll never see an antivaxxer or truth seeker stoop so low
Actually, it is a great tactic. Smack down deceit with...deceit!
But there is nothing lower than child murder caused by antivax lies.
The fact that Cassidy is religious has nothing to do with anything. You don’t need a belief in invisible overlords to know it is wrong for children to suffer and die needlessly. His religious beliefs are what has led to this, in my opinion. For religious fundamentalists, every bad thing that happens is happening because “everything happens for a reason”, instead of it being because you have made some incredibly foolish decisions and because you have abandoned your responsibility to your patients and to your constituents out of concern you might get called a “loser” by Donald Trump.
The fact that he describes himself as "religious," just highlights his evil, self-serving hypocrisy. Cassidy knew exactly what he was enabling, and deceitfully helped to sell it.
Like other lines in the sand, it has been easily erased by the wind.