On July 31, 2021, RFK Jr. traveled to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. His goal in the heart of the COVID pandemic was to scare the Amish away from lifesaving vaccines.
Your a proven liar Paul. The problem is you keep lying and kids keep getting sicker and sicker and dying. The real truth is that RFJ Jnr has actually looked and cannot be corrupted like you.
The AV movement only has kegs because the truth will never lay down.
Such blatant disregard for human life. My blood boils, knowing that RFK jr. is still pushing this BS after the injuries and deaths he has caused. Truly a degenerate human being.
Lifesaving vaccines? Please! As more and more vaccines are being given to American kids, their health is declining. We now have a generation with high rates of chronic illness, autoimmune disease, metal toxicity, neurological damage, etc. And it is known that some vaccines INCREASE transmission of the disease they were supposed to stop. The 'herd immunity' concept is wishful thinking at best, and used as coercion to push vaccines, most notably the COVID vaccines. The Amish largely avoid any of this nonsense. Your ad hominem attacks against RFK, Jr. are erroneous and unethical.
There is always room for both sides of every issue. There are people vaccines don’t work for. And very few vaccines prevent carrying and spreading disease so it should be a choice.
Just like cigarettes it took time for people to accept the voices saying there was a problem with them weren’t crazy. Covid’s silver lining was making it crystal clear pharma doesn’t care about your health. Time to wake up people, tobacco also used the argument correlation doesn’t confirm causation. But added to other signals was enough to say we need to look at this further. Pharma wasn’t committed to vaccines until the 1986 vaccine act, in fact without it they were getting out of the vaccine segment as they were all too aware a portion of the population was getting harmed by their products, and the liability wasn’t good for shareholders. It’s just a fact that will be openly accepted one day.
Oh my goodness. Thank you for this info. Now explain the excess 15-20 M deaths and likely $20 trillion in losses over four years caused by you and your ilk.
As Offit's noted before, the disinformation campaign, including the anti-vax campaign is alive and well. I can understand those who were duped by the mor eglib players and bought the disinformation because they're out of their scientific depth. I can't fathom people like RFKjr who do this intentionally, with a much better understanding of the consequences.
This highlights the requirement we, as scientists, have to better communicate the science, and truth as established by that science and careful investigation to the public. It's not an easy task for a number of my colleagues, and for that matter, wasn't easy for me at the height of the pandemic. That still means we have an obligation to help educate, and to refute those dangerous disinformation statements.
a clear history of tragedy of recent epidemics of measles associated with vaccine-deniers influencing a community -- and RFKJr is among the worst actors.
All the folks lining up for their 4th, 5th or 6th shot should be treated with the utmost compassion because they have been tricked by fear into agreeing to this medical intervention. These folks will never change their minds, therefore leaving them open to further exploitation, fear-mongering and poisonous medical practices.
Extraordinary. How does a wicked perversion of the known facts manage to dupe so many people? Inducing people to believe dangerous nonsense peddled by the anti-vaxxers is a form of fraud and should be criminalised as such.
Problem is that I do the research and have written extensively on the vaccines, being a viral immunologist. I have not found credible evidence as Offit has well documented. Calling him a whore does not make you an expert. Show me your evidence, or admit you are a liar. I have asked MANY, MANY people like you to back up your claims and NOT ONE HAS! Rather, ALL respond with character attacks like you have. I contend you have have nothing else to offer. Prove me wrong. I bet you either ignore this, OR respond with more invective. But, you will NOT respond with evidence.....
I had measles back in the 50s before there was a vaccine. Other than having red freckles on my skin, I remember it as a minor event in my life. I remember my physician-father telling me I now had natural immunity. Why all the anxiety over measles?
RFK, Jr is pretty disgusting. I have been blogging on the covid pandemic since March 2020. In one post, I posed the question whether intentional vaccine disinformation that led to harm should be considered criminal. How would that be different from intentionally withholding insulin from a diabetic in crisis?
off topic but Dr. Offit just said on MSNBC's Morning Joe that there was "absolutely no evidence the Covid virus was manipulated in a lab" and that "it came from a spillover event." I challenged him to a debate on this two months ago and he ignored the challenge. I have abundant evidence the virus was manipulated in a lab and I proved on 2.20.2020 the virus couldn't have entered the human population from natural zoonotic spillover.
His shills stepped in to say he didn't waste his time debating unqualified people. Turns out Dr. Offit went to Tufts (ranked 360-something)- major not disclosed on the internet- and is a pediatrician with 3 years of training and one of fellowship in infectious diseases and the "unqualified" challenger graduated from MIT (ranked #1 in the world for 13 straight years), majored in physics and is a pediatric heart surgeon with 12 years of postgraduate training. Ah, the good ole days...
This is an extract from “The beautiful cure” by Daniel M Davis, professor of immunology at University of Manchester, England which may be relevant. Particularly the phrase “get childhood vaccinations” that applies to the Amish and Hutterite communities.
“ To answer this, scientists have studied two relatively isolated farming communities living in the USA: the Amish and the Hutterites, who have similar ancestry but differ in their susceptibility to asthma. Amish children have asthma relatively rarely – around 5% are affected – while the prevalence of asthma among Hutterite children is around four times greater. Both communities have large families, similar diets and get childhood vaccinations, but one difference is that the Amish use traditional farming methods on single-family dairy farms while the Hutterites embrace larger-scale communal mechanised farming. Each community lives in a similar environment but Amish children live closer to animals and their sheds. The fact that the Amish are less likely to get asthma corresponds with the hygiene hypothesis: stimulation of the immune system by microbes found on small farms might be what protects the Amish from asthma. To test whether or not there were any differences in the state of the immune system in Amish and Hutterite children, a team of researchers, primarily from the universities of Chicago and Arizona, analysed the numbers of different immune cells and which genes were active in blood samples taken from sixty schoolchildren. They found that the Amish children’s innate immune cells, which recognise the telltale signs of germs, were being continuously stimulated at a low level. In other words, their immune system was continuously being tickled by the presence of bacteria.”
If there are differences in the immune systems then that could explain a lot.
The Amish seem to be doing better than the general population, healthwise. Thanks “scientismism”!
Your a proven liar Paul. The problem is you keep lying and kids keep getting sicker and sicker and dying. The real truth is that RFJ Jnr has actually looked and cannot be corrupted like you.
The AV movement only has kegs because the truth will never lay down.
Your a horrible human
Such blatant disregard for human life. My blood boils, knowing that RFK jr. is still pushing this BS after the injuries and deaths he has caused. Truly a degenerate human being.
Lifesaving vaccines? Please! As more and more vaccines are being given to American kids, their health is declining. We now have a generation with high rates of chronic illness, autoimmune disease, metal toxicity, neurological damage, etc. And it is known that some vaccines INCREASE transmission of the disease they were supposed to stop. The 'herd immunity' concept is wishful thinking at best, and used as coercion to push vaccines, most notably the COVID vaccines. The Amish largely avoid any of this nonsense. Your ad hominem attacks against RFK, Jr. are erroneous and unethical.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38274635/
There is always room for both sides of every issue. There are people vaccines don’t work for. And very few vaccines prevent carrying and spreading disease so it should be a choice.
Just like cigarettes it took time for people to accept the voices saying there was a problem with them weren’t crazy. Covid’s silver lining was making it crystal clear pharma doesn’t care about your health. Time to wake up people, tobacco also used the argument correlation doesn’t confirm causation. But added to other signals was enough to say we need to look at this further. Pharma wasn’t committed to vaccines until the 1986 vaccine act, in fact without it they were getting out of the vaccine segment as they were all too aware a portion of the population was getting harmed by their products, and the liability wasn’t good for shareholders. It’s just a fact that will be openly accepted one day.
Oh my goodness. Thank you for this info. Now explain the excess 15-20 M deaths and likely $20 trillion in losses over four years caused by you and your ilk.
As Offit's noted before, the disinformation campaign, including the anti-vax campaign is alive and well. I can understand those who were duped by the mor eglib players and bought the disinformation because they're out of their scientific depth. I can't fathom people like RFKjr who do this intentionally, with a much better understanding of the consequences.
This highlights the requirement we, as scientists, have to better communicate the science, and truth as established by that science and careful investigation to the public. It's not an easy task for a number of my colleagues, and for that matter, wasn't easy for me at the height of the pandemic. That still means we have an obligation to help educate, and to refute those dangerous disinformation statements.
a clear history of tragedy of recent epidemics of measles associated with vaccine-deniers influencing a community -- and RFKJr is among the worst actors.
All the folks lining up for their 4th, 5th or 6th shot should be treated with the utmost compassion because they have been tricked by fear into agreeing to this medical intervention. These folks will never change their minds, therefore leaving them open to further exploitation, fear-mongering and poisonous medical practices.
Extraordinary. How does a wicked perversion of the known facts manage to dupe so many people? Inducing people to believe dangerous nonsense peddled by the anti-vaxxers is a form of fraud and should be criminalised as such.
Problem is that I do the research and have written extensively on the vaccines, being a viral immunologist. I have not found credible evidence as Offit has well documented. Calling him a whore does not make you an expert. Show me your evidence, or admit you are a liar. I have asked MANY, MANY people like you to back up your claims and NOT ONE HAS! Rather, ALL respond with character attacks like you have. I contend you have have nothing else to offer. Prove me wrong. I bet you either ignore this, OR respond with more invective. But, you will NOT respond with evidence.....
I had measles back in the 50s before there was a vaccine. Other than having red freckles on my skin, I remember it as a minor event in my life. I remember my physician-father telling me I now had natural immunity. Why all the anxiety over measles?
RFK, Jr is pretty disgusting. I have been blogging on the covid pandemic since March 2020. In one post, I posed the question whether intentional vaccine disinformation that led to harm should be considered criminal. How would that be different from intentionally withholding insulin from a diabetic in crisis?
off topic but Dr. Offit just said on MSNBC's Morning Joe that there was "absolutely no evidence the Covid virus was manipulated in a lab" and that "it came from a spillover event." I challenged him to a debate on this two months ago and he ignored the challenge. I have abundant evidence the virus was manipulated in a lab and I proved on 2.20.2020 the virus couldn't have entered the human population from natural zoonotic spillover.
His shills stepped in to say he didn't waste his time debating unqualified people. Turns out Dr. Offit went to Tufts (ranked 360-something)- major not disclosed on the internet- and is a pediatrician with 3 years of training and one of fellowship in infectious diseases and the "unqualified" challenger graduated from MIT (ranked #1 in the world for 13 straight years), majored in physics and is a pediatric heart surgeon with 12 years of postgraduate training. Ah, the good ole days...
This is an extract from “The beautiful cure” by Daniel M Davis, professor of immunology at University of Manchester, England which may be relevant. Particularly the phrase “get childhood vaccinations” that applies to the Amish and Hutterite communities.
“ To answer this, scientists have studied two relatively isolated farming communities living in the USA: the Amish and the Hutterites, who have similar ancestry but differ in their susceptibility to asthma. Amish children have asthma relatively rarely – around 5% are affected – while the prevalence of asthma among Hutterite children is around four times greater. Both communities have large families, similar diets and get childhood vaccinations, but one difference is that the Amish use traditional farming methods on single-family dairy farms while the Hutterites embrace larger-scale communal mechanised farming. Each community lives in a similar environment but Amish children live closer to animals and their sheds. The fact that the Amish are less likely to get asthma corresponds with the hygiene hypothesis: stimulation of the immune system by microbes found on small farms might be what protects the Amish from asthma. To test whether or not there were any differences in the state of the immune system in Amish and Hutterite children, a team of researchers, primarily from the universities of Chicago and Arizona, analysed the numbers of different immune cells and which genes were active in blood samples taken from sixty schoolchildren. They found that the Amish children’s innate immune cells, which recognise the telltale signs of germs, were being continuously stimulated at a low level. In other words, their immune system was continuously being tickled by the presence of bacteria.”
If there are differences in the immune systems then that could explain a lot.
I would have thought RFKjr was capable of communicating his antivax propaganda without needing Bigtree to hold his hand.
But maybe Dell is going to produce a movie…
Which reminds me of this attempt by someone from the past on HPV vaccine.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MsPpAfcmbHw&feature=youtu.be