This is a predictable blowback from 3 years of damaging and ineffective authoritarian covid policy, false claims about the covid vaccines, and the disastrous strategic error of trying to mandate them. With the huge pile-on into the CDC vax schedule since 1980, more parents are questioning the need for all of these shots and wondering which are truly necessary. The lax standards by which covid vaccines were approved for children and CDC's studied avoidance of addressing adverse events has caused many to question what the FDA/CDC standard of "safe and effective" means.
This is a problem that the ID/ public health community has created. We need an outbreak of covid truth and reconciliation. Trying to blame and censor "misinformation" will only make the problem worse.
We can't have the freedom to drive unless we all agree to obey the traffic laws. We can't have the freedom of financial independence unless we all agree to pay taxes. We can't have the freedom to do whatever we want unless we all agree to the same set of rules.
Whether we want to admit it or not, having our individual freedoms depends upon the collective actions of others. "Personal choice" without personal responsibility is chaos.
Should one's right not to vaccinate infringe on the rights of people not to get sick from easily preventable diseases?
Not only will children die of measles, if vaccination rates drop, children will be paralyzed by tetanus, will develop whooping cough, paralytic polio, german measles which will put unborn babies at risk for deafness ... and the list goes on of completely preventable morbidity and mortality.
Very few people are going to argue against a measles or polio vaccination, but it's very reasonable to argue against some other vaccines where the risk reward is less clear and where the total cocktail given now may produce adverse reactions that were never tested for. The tests required to get approval for vaccines look at individual vaccines. They often do comparisons to other vaccines. Only an idiot or corrupt person would test it that way. They never even look at what happens to a person's body from a cocktail of 70 vaccines and whether there is cumulative damage.
At this point everyone knows the profit motive is major part of the decision making process. That became obvious very quickly during Covid when even though the vaccines were failing badly in Israel after just months the authorities in the US were still lying about its effectiveness, when they lied about immunity from prior infection and mandated the vaccines anyway, when they covered up the red flags on safety in several databases on side effects and put the onus on the people suffering to prove it was from the vaccine instead of the other way around. They are STILL lying about side effects now or are so biased they are in denial.
The only ignorant people left are those in the medical community. The public gets it. You'll never be trusted again by anyone with a functioning brain. The only ones left that trust you are the lemmings.
The people know Scott Gottleib is playing musical chairs between the FDA and Pfizer.
The people know Anthony Fauci wanted to test these mRNA vaccines and blocked off possible early treatments. They know he had financial incentives to do so.
The people know that politicians get contributions from drug companies.
The people know that the media is bought and paid for by advertising dollars.
They people know the system is corrupt and will rightfully never trust you again.
The worst part of this is that the new jab has been conflated successfully as a vaccine. It is not a vaccine in any objective person's mind except in name only. It is a gene therapy aka called a countermeasure so it can be produced in a rush with no quality standards or even true risk analysis so we are to just be ignorant slaves and do what we are told and roll up our sleeves. Too many don't really understand that "never again" is indeed happening again because of narratives that sound good. Thomas Sowell wrote that the last 2 decades we have traded what worked for what sounded good. He is spot on. It is time we stopped doing things that sound good and look for conflicts of interest, honest trials, honest people with integrity in our medical field and in our elections. We are about to go under if we don't wake up and have integrity.
As Dr. Offit lays out in this post the history of what happens when a vaccine that has served the public well becomes laxed by those who believe it isn't needed, the outcome is pretty obvious.
You seem to be running cover for big pharma. Why are you set against even listening to some of these men and women. I can tell that you have not even tried. Are you afraid of their message? You can't cherry pick deaths. Either someone dies or they did not die. It is one metric that cannot be cherry picked. The number of jabs given out and to whom does not lend itself to cherry picking either. The only question is: Is their a correlation between the two and if so is it possitive, negative, and how strong is the correlation. That is all Edward Dowd does. If you search for any of these people, I should have mentioned not to use Google. They will put many negative articles ahead of anything you search for because they do not want you to see these messages. If you use Duck Duck Go, you can decide what you want to see by what your search is for. It is impossible to discuss these topics intelligently without spending some time listening to some of these courageous people. Many of them lost their jobs and many friends and spend much of their time reading all they can to get a handle on what seems like the biggest scam of all history. Most people sound like talking heads just repeating what they hear elsewhere. Just because the common narrative is heard 500 times with money backing the message, does not make it true. These people from my prior post do not. I admit I do just repeat what they say so don't listen to me. Listen to them. I am just trying to be a warning voice to all who have been duped by the official false narratives and most people have never heard more than a few lines from these people and need to hear their voices before committing to such a serious thing as taking an experimental injection with no even medium term data and many signs that all is not well with the whole rollout of our response. One glaring red flag it that their are alternatives that are awesome and more effective like I mentioned earlier but the narrative wants you to believe that you must get vaccinated whether you are old, young, healthy, pregnant, fit, unhealthy, etc. How many read flags do you need? I have a hard time not wanting to show how horrible it all seems to me. To use an experimental drug (emergency use) their can't be any alternative therapy thus they demonized any alternative from the get go. That tactic, in my view caused more deaths that the jabs will ever, ever save. Everyone needs money but huge amounts of money flowing to stay in line is worth watching for.
Disclaimer: I believe, based on available evidence, that MMR and DPT vaccines are safe and effective. Also, based on the available evidence, I believe it is perfectly reasonable for a parent to forego these vaccines. Using Dr. Offit’s own statistics, in 1963 3.5 million people would get the measles and 500 would die. That comes out to .014% infection fatality rate, assuming the 3.5 million didn’t include any additional unreported cases. About 1 in 10,000 people of all ages would die from getting the measles in the pre-vaccine age. Any reasonable parent might ask, “How many of these people were elderly and infirm? Can we assume that comorbidities played a role in a majority of these deaths? Would many or even most of these deaths have been averted with today’s standard of medical care vs. that of 1963?”
Also, any intelligent parent would know that, though risks are low with, for example, the measles vaccine, they are not zero. More questions arise: “How many deaths/serious adverse events occur due to inappropriate handling of vaccines? Contamination? Production error? Staph infections? Live viral infection caused by the vaccine? Anaphylaxis? Or just plain error on the part of the administer of the vaccine?”
Dr. Offit says the case-fatality rate (CFR) for measles is about 1 in 1,000. This says more about Dr. Offit’s integrity than it does about the measles. For those of you who may not remember how we were misled by the media in the early days of Covid, the CFR is the number of fatalities divided by the number of reported cases, as opposed to the infection fatality rate, which is fatalities divided by the ACTUAL number of cases. For example, the CFR of Covid was regularly reported in the media to be between 3% and 6% in 2020. The IFR was actually well below 0.5% and falling. When someone mentions the CFR of a virus, I advise hiding your wallet, locking up your daughters, and not giving them the time of day. You’re not dealing with a safe person.
A 1962 episode of The Rifleman (23:00 mark) adds historical perspective on how worried we should be about the measles: The Rifleman - Season 5, Episode 4 - Quiet Night, Deadly Night - Full Episode - YouTube
20% of parents thinking vaccines are dangerous is a huge achievement for Mercola, RFK and the other anti public health ninnies who are loving the freedom from responsibility the internet brings. If, as the Greeks knew, Democracy cannot work without an educated electorate, then what future are we facing. I pity this generation of kids!
Though focusing on mortality, let's not forget the numbers of children with post acute sequelae. I, myself, have a lifelong hearing disability from measles. The vaccines came a decade too late. We shouldn't discount the healthcare burden either. Look what happened during the RSV season last year. Luckily we now have means to help newborns.
In 1963, three to four million children got measles. 450 died. As you observed here. That’s 1.125 deaths out of 10,000 cases of measles. I had it at six, as everyone I ever knew my age or older had had. Measles is not dangerous to healthy, well-nourished children who are not given fever reducers. Giving them vitamin A prevents eye damage and other complications. It would be better to let natural measles come back. Dr. Peter Aaby found that in Senegal, children who got and recovered from natural measles had only one-fifth the all-cause mortality in the subsequent four years as those who for whatever reason did not get natural measles. About half the measles deaths in the US in 1963 were in malnourished children in the Deep South. Most of the others were in immunocompromised children. It would be better to let healthy children just go through the natural disease and receive the benefits of its training the immune system.
Back to School: The Quest to Eliminate Vaccine Mandates
This is a predictable blowback from 3 years of damaging and ineffective authoritarian covid policy, false claims about the covid vaccines, and the disastrous strategic error of trying to mandate them. With the huge pile-on into the CDC vax schedule since 1980, more parents are questioning the need for all of these shots and wondering which are truly necessary. The lax standards by which covid vaccines were approved for children and CDC's studied avoidance of addressing adverse events has caused many to question what the FDA/CDC standard of "safe and effective" means.
This is a problem that the ID/ public health community has created. We need an outbreak of covid truth and reconciliation. Trying to blame and censor "misinformation" will only make the problem worse.
We can't have the freedom to drive unless we all agree to obey the traffic laws. We can't have the freedom of financial independence unless we all agree to pay taxes. We can't have the freedom to do whatever we want unless we all agree to the same set of rules.
Whether we want to admit it or not, having our individual freedoms depends upon the collective actions of others. "Personal choice" without personal responsibility is chaos.
Should one's right not to vaccinate infringe on the rights of people not to get sick from easily preventable diseases?
Not only will children die of measles, if vaccination rates drop, children will be paralyzed by tetanus, will develop whooping cough, paralytic polio, german measles which will put unborn babies at risk for deafness ... and the list goes on of completely preventable morbidity and mortality.
Very few people are going to argue against a measles or polio vaccination, but it's very reasonable to argue against some other vaccines where the risk reward is less clear and where the total cocktail given now may produce adverse reactions that were never tested for. The tests required to get approval for vaccines look at individual vaccines. They often do comparisons to other vaccines. Only an idiot or corrupt person would test it that way. They never even look at what happens to a person's body from a cocktail of 70 vaccines and whether there is cumulative damage.
At this point everyone knows the profit motive is major part of the decision making process. That became obvious very quickly during Covid when even though the vaccines were failing badly in Israel after just months the authorities in the US were still lying about its effectiveness, when they lied about immunity from prior infection and mandated the vaccines anyway, when they covered up the red flags on safety in several databases on side effects and put the onus on the people suffering to prove it was from the vaccine instead of the other way around. They are STILL lying about side effects now or are so biased they are in denial.
The only ignorant people left are those in the medical community. The public gets it. You'll never be trusted again by anyone with a functioning brain. The only ones left that trust you are the lemmings.
The people know Scott Gottleib is playing musical chairs between the FDA and Pfizer.
The people know Anthony Fauci wanted to test these mRNA vaccines and blocked off possible early treatments. They know he had financial incentives to do so.
The people know that politicians get contributions from drug companies.
The people know that the media is bought and paid for by advertising dollars.
They people know the system is corrupt and will rightfully never trust you again.
Well, if the measles vaccine is safe and effective parents will want it for their kids. Problem solved.
If vaccines work, then vaccinated children are protected. Why does everyone have to vaccinate for my vaccine to work? Shouldn’t my vaccine protect me?
The worst part of this is that the new jab has been conflated successfully as a vaccine. It is not a vaccine in any objective person's mind except in name only. It is a gene therapy aka called a countermeasure so it can be produced in a rush with no quality standards or even true risk analysis so we are to just be ignorant slaves and do what we are told and roll up our sleeves. Too many don't really understand that "never again" is indeed happening again because of narratives that sound good. Thomas Sowell wrote that the last 2 decades we have traded what worked for what sounded good. He is spot on. It is time we stopped doing things that sound good and look for conflicts of interest, honest trials, honest people with integrity in our medical field and in our elections. We are about to go under if we don't wake up and have integrity.
As Dr. Offit lays out in this post the history of what happens when a vaccine that has served the public well becomes laxed by those who believe it isn't needed, the outcome is pretty obvious.
If parents can choose to kill their children inside the womb, then parents should be able to choose whether or not, they vaccinate their children.
The Covid shot isn’t a vaccine. A vaccine doesn’t take 7 shots over 2 1/2 years. Then measles vaccine doesn’t need 7 shots, does it?
You seem to be running cover for big pharma. Why are you set against even listening to some of these men and women. I can tell that you have not even tried. Are you afraid of their message? You can't cherry pick deaths. Either someone dies or they did not die. It is one metric that cannot be cherry picked. The number of jabs given out and to whom does not lend itself to cherry picking either. The only question is: Is their a correlation between the two and if so is it possitive, negative, and how strong is the correlation. That is all Edward Dowd does. If you search for any of these people, I should have mentioned not to use Google. They will put many negative articles ahead of anything you search for because they do not want you to see these messages. If you use Duck Duck Go, you can decide what you want to see by what your search is for. It is impossible to discuss these topics intelligently without spending some time listening to some of these courageous people. Many of them lost their jobs and many friends and spend much of their time reading all they can to get a handle on what seems like the biggest scam of all history. Most people sound like talking heads just repeating what they hear elsewhere. Just because the common narrative is heard 500 times with money backing the message, does not make it true. These people from my prior post do not. I admit I do just repeat what they say so don't listen to me. Listen to them. I am just trying to be a warning voice to all who have been duped by the official false narratives and most people have never heard more than a few lines from these people and need to hear their voices before committing to such a serious thing as taking an experimental injection with no even medium term data and many signs that all is not well with the whole rollout of our response. One glaring red flag it that their are alternatives that are awesome and more effective like I mentioned earlier but the narrative wants you to believe that you must get vaccinated whether you are old, young, healthy, pregnant, fit, unhealthy, etc. How many read flags do you need? I have a hard time not wanting to show how horrible it all seems to me. To use an experimental drug (emergency use) their can't be any alternative therapy thus they demonized any alternative from the get go. That tactic, in my view caused more deaths that the jabs will ever, ever save. Everyone needs money but huge amounts of money flowing to stay in line is worth watching for.
Disclaimer: I believe, based on available evidence, that MMR and DPT vaccines are safe and effective. Also, based on the available evidence, I believe it is perfectly reasonable for a parent to forego these vaccines. Using Dr. Offit’s own statistics, in 1963 3.5 million people would get the measles and 500 would die. That comes out to .014% infection fatality rate, assuming the 3.5 million didn’t include any additional unreported cases. About 1 in 10,000 people of all ages would die from getting the measles in the pre-vaccine age. Any reasonable parent might ask, “How many of these people were elderly and infirm? Can we assume that comorbidities played a role in a majority of these deaths? Would many or even most of these deaths have been averted with today’s standard of medical care vs. that of 1963?”
Also, any intelligent parent would know that, though risks are low with, for example, the measles vaccine, they are not zero. More questions arise: “How many deaths/serious adverse events occur due to inappropriate handling of vaccines? Contamination? Production error? Staph infections? Live viral infection caused by the vaccine? Anaphylaxis? Or just plain error on the part of the administer of the vaccine?”
Dr. Offit says the case-fatality rate (CFR) for measles is about 1 in 1,000. This says more about Dr. Offit’s integrity than it does about the measles. For those of you who may not remember how we were misled by the media in the early days of Covid, the CFR is the number of fatalities divided by the number of reported cases, as opposed to the infection fatality rate, which is fatalities divided by the ACTUAL number of cases. For example, the CFR of Covid was regularly reported in the media to be between 3% and 6% in 2020. The IFR was actually well below 0.5% and falling. When someone mentions the CFR of a virus, I advise hiding your wallet, locking up your daughters, and not giving them the time of day. You’re not dealing with a safe person.
A 1962 episode of The Rifleman (23:00 mark) adds historical perspective on how worried we should be about the measles: The Rifleman - Season 5, Episode 4 - Quiet Night, Deadly Night - Full Episode - YouTube
20% of parents thinking vaccines are dangerous is a huge achievement for Mercola, RFK and the other anti public health ninnies who are loving the freedom from responsibility the internet brings. If, as the Greeks knew, Democracy cannot work without an educated electorate, then what future are we facing. I pity this generation of kids!
Though focusing on mortality, let's not forget the numbers of children with post acute sequelae. I, myself, have a lifelong hearing disability from measles. The vaccines came a decade too late. We shouldn't discount the healthcare burden either. Look what happened during the RSV season last year. Luckily we now have means to help newborns.
A perspective from the U.K.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles-deaths-by-age-group-from-1980-to-2013-ons-data/measles-notifications-and-deaths-in-england-and-wales-1940-to-2013
We didn’t have the measles vaccine until 1968. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vaccination-timeline/vaccination-timeline-from-1796-to-present
We don’t mandate any vaccinations in children.
In 1963, three to four million children got measles. 450 died. As you observed here. That’s 1.125 deaths out of 10,000 cases of measles. I had it at six, as everyone I ever knew my age or older had had. Measles is not dangerous to healthy, well-nourished children who are not given fever reducers. Giving them vitamin A prevents eye damage and other complications. It would be better to let natural measles come back. Dr. Peter Aaby found that in Senegal, children who got and recovered from natural measles had only one-fifth the all-cause mortality in the subsequent four years as those who for whatever reason did not get natural measles. About half the measles deaths in the US in 1963 were in malnourished children in the Deep South. Most of the others were in immunocompromised children. It would be better to let healthy children just go through the natural disease and receive the benefits of its training the immune system.