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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

No he should be stripped of his position shown who he is as a fraud and thrown in jail. He is a narcissist

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Tickled Yellow's avatar

I’d really like to know why he hasn’t been reported for practicing medicine without a license.

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Mike S's avatar

Unfortunately someone who isn't an MD can still be the head of the DHHS. That person can direct health policy, without actually "practicing" medicine. But I'm sure Kennedy thinks he knows more that 99% of doctors.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Most doctors agree Kennedy knows more about science than doctors.

85% reject the killer mRNA sewage COVID jabs, agreeing with Kennedy.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7343a2.htm#:~:text=During%20the%202023–24%20respiratory,10.5%25%20among%20nursing%20home%20personnel.

“Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Knows More About the Science Than Most Doctors”: Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, owner of the LA Times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0DoPxxgr5M

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Shade Seeker's avatar

Your 1st link doesn't show what you claim it does.

Your second link is a youtube vid and not evidence of anything.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

grow a brain and try again.

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Shade Seeker's avatar

So I'm right. Got it.

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Albus's avatar

Translation: you are still too stupid to read YOUR link.

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Tickled Yellow's avatar

Your first link is a study showing the importance of healthcare workers to get vaccinated.

The second link is a video of 4 guys (unnamed) chitchatting. Who are these guys? What are their backgrounds? Please tell me you’re not that gullible to blatantly believe what random people say in a YouTube video.

It makes sense you’re a vaccine skeptic because you don’t seem to understand the value of a credible source.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

"4 guys (unnamed)"

What part of "Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, owner of the LA Times." are you too illiterate to comprehend?

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

" importance of healthcare workers to get vaccinated." per the corrupted old CDC which 85% of the "medical professionals" are ignoring. What's the "scientific consensus" when 85% of "doctors" reject their own dog food?

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Albus's avatar

Nope.

The consensus is:

1. You are too stupid to understand that hospital personnel and nursing home personnel are not the same as doctors.

2. You are too immoral to correct your idiocy.

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Tickled Yellow's avatar

This is laughable. RFK jr doesn’t even believe in the germ theory which was discovered 150 years ago. He thinks HIV is caused by recreational drugs like poppers lol. How on earth could he know more about science than doctors? He’s like the ultimate flat-earther to the medical world.

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Chris's avatar

And just for your information, the Earth is flat in motionless, and that can be proven by clouds, kites, airplanes, cannonball shot straight up into the air, railroad tracks, the law of perception. Let me count the ways.

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Chris's avatar

HIV along with every other alleged virus has never been proven to scientifically exist,. Luke Montay, the so-called discovery of HIV received the Nobel prize for this. His electron microscopy expert is on record as saying “we never saw HIV “yet he received a Nobel prize for it, very interesting. Age, is caused by many things, but not an alleged virus. Recreational drugs, AZT, cocktails of AZT, excessive, parting, combined with alcohol, combined with recreational drugs. Particularly nitrate, a.k.a. poppers which caused Karpos sarcoma, the defining factor of aids in San Francisco among the gay community. In Africa, “age “is nothing more than starvation, combined with unsanitary, living conditions, and poisonous vaccinations. That has been going on for a long time.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Those are your foolish assumptions based on media lies.

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Tickled Yellow's avatar

In his 2021 book, The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discusses various aspects of the HIV/AIDS crisis, “Duesberg and many who have followed him offered evidence that heavy recreational drug use in gay men and drug addicts was the real cause of immune deficiency among the first generation of AIDS sufferers.” Page 280s I believe.

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Chris's avatar

Yes, HIV and every other virus has never been proven to scientifically exist. To the contrary, it is very easy to see why “aid “exist in the gay community. It started with a nitrate “poppers “a drug which caused Carosi sarcoma, the defining factor of age in the beginning. Add to that AZT a rejected form of chemotherapy that killed everything it touched including Freddie Mercury. In the gay community, they lived a lifestyle that simply does not jive with longevity. Alcoholism, staying up all night, injecting drugs,

Q Poor diet, antibiotics, anal intercourse, which causes problems, etc., etc. In Africa come on starvation combine with unsanitary, living conditions and vaccinations up the butt. Nothing to do with viruses that do not exist.

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M. Stankovich, MD, MSW's avatar

HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on CBS this Morning, April 9, 2025:

"Are you encouraging people to get the measles vaccine?"

"Okay, so that... I mean, I think that’s actually the next step. And that’s news as far as I’m concerned that you’re saying that. Because, you know, there’s the issue of the federal government. We talked about this earlier when it came... when we were talking about food, that what’s the position philosophically of the federal government in terms of public health? The federal government’s position... my position is people should get the measles vaccine. But if the government should not be mandating..."

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Albus's avatar

"Most doctors agree Kennedy knows more about science than doctors"

That is NOT what your link says.

You prove unable to read.

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Julie Bo's avatar

i actually think he does!

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Mike S's avatar

Errr, no. He might know some stuff on some aspects of environmental toxicities, but knows sweet FA about everything else, and that includes vaccines and autism.

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Cia Parker's avatar

He knows more than you guys do, just without your financial incentives.

What do you know about the child who died Saturday? Not perfectly healthy previously as they said: chronic mono and tonsillitis. Recovered from measles, but got sepsis. At hospital the parents asked for the widely recommended budesonide treatment (which I would as well), but the hospital REFUSED!?! It gave her steroids, further depressing her already depressed immune system and she died. Between this and the Mennonite girl’s not being given the obviously correct antibiotic for mycoplasma pneumonia for eleven hours after identification, it LOOKS as though hospitals were deliberately giving fatal treatments to punish patients for not getting the MMR. Or maybe to use them as advertising.

Were the hospital staff incompetent or malign?

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Mike S's avatar

Malone is the purveyor of this info. Has he got the case notes? will he make them public, or just twist the facts and lie as he has done before? We both know the answer…he won’t reveal what they really say.

According to the hospital, the child had no pre-existing health issues.

According to Malone’s confused story, the child may have had previous infectious mononucleosis (EBV) and recurrent tonsillitis, yet elsewhere he says this developed AFTER the child got measles. Strange.

If the child had tonsillitis and pharyngeal ulceration, then inhaled budesonide would be contraindicated, as it would deposit steroids locally in an area of inflammation and sepsis, causing worsening disease.

If the child was in severe sepsis/septic shock, then systemic steroids are often given to support the metabolic requirements and to compensate for endogenous steroid depletion. Nothing wrong with that. It can improve outcomes of sepsis and reduce mortality.

Thank goodness the hospital DIDN’T give inhaled budesonide - to do that would have been negligent and no doubt if they had the family could well have a claim for negligent death as it would have worsened the risks of sepric tonsillitis and septicaemia/”septic shock”.

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Mike S's avatar

Inhaled steroids WORSEN local inflammation in the pharynx. Budesonide increases the risk of pharyngitis five-fold.

They would be dangerous to give to someone with tonsillitis…they not only cause more inflammation but trigger fungal and bacterial colonisation and sepsis, leading to higher risk of septic complications and septicaemia.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK74073/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19126133/

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Do you know the pathophysiology of autism, asthma, allergies, autoimmunity? No. You know nothing. We have all those answers. You are all irrelevant.

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Mike S's avatar

I know more about them than you, Vinu. You think they are all yeast allergies. LOL.

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Albus's avatar

We know for sure that you can't read or count.

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Tickled Yellow's avatar

What about before he became head of the DHHS? He was telling people to take vitamin A instead of the vaccine well before his confirmation.

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Mel's avatar

He does indeed know more than most- having worked around physicians for decades as an internal medicine NP, I can assure you, Kennedy knows more about certain health topics than many physicians. The latest unreasonable doctor comment I have heard was from a patient suffering post Covid vaccine heart related symptomology, two days after her “booster.” She told him, “Doc, this chest pain began within a couple days of my shot” and he replied, “Not in my world it didn’t!!”and sent her on her way to cardiology nonetheless, thank goodness. This sort of behavior is unconscionable and the main reason why people do not trust their physicians or our healthcare agencies in general, any longer. And they shouldn’t trust them. Kennedy will do a fine job and is a much-needed breath of clean, fresh air. The agencies are corrupt and filled with paid shills, the journals are corrupt and retract any article less than glowing regarding the Covid “vaccines” and the whole system needs an overhaul. He is THE man to do it. We should all get behind him. And act like WE don’t know everything. Unfortunately, the attitude that doctors know all is rampant, but only in their own minds. The public knows better.

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Mike S's avatar

He’s a joke, not some medical authority. I remember when he claimed MMR and the Rotavirus vaccines contained mercury… he couldn’t even get those simple facts correct despite claiming vaccine expertise!

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Tickled Yellow's avatar

I’m gonna make an educated guess here and say more kids/people are going to unfortunately die which will ultimately lead to Trump firing RFK jr. I’m gonna say this will happen by the end of 2026 or sooner. A record number of people will die from the flu and measles. That might be the time Trump steps in. Thoughts?

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Mel's avatar

Ok!

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steve's avatar

As a retired medical school professor, I say you are spouting nonsense and should have your license revoked!!

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Mel's avatar

Ahh… another know-it-all. OK! You were probably terrible at your job, but never knew it.

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steve's avatar

"Ahh...another know-it-all. OK!" No, I was good at my job. A tenured professor with patents, many publications. And I know that YOU are terrible at YOUR job because you deny empirical science. Resign!!

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Albus's avatar

Translation: no, you won't look and see that RFK jr has made millions lying.

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Chris's avatar

MD, standing for Me, deity? The same guys who stick mercury, aluminum, aborted, feral tissue, formaldehyde, and God knows what else babies arms? that sounds like a road to hell to me

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Ted's avatar
Apr 7Edited

Is the .0005 - .1 mg of formaldehyde in vaccines worse than the 1.1 mg that a babies body produces through natural processes? Formaldehyde in vaccines is chemically identical to formaldehyde that a human body produces.

What mercury is being stuck in babies arms? And god does know what else is in the vaccines since the ingredients are listed. As long as you can read, you and your god can know what is in them.

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Tickled Yellow's avatar

Babies are exposed to more aluminum in breast milk than in vaccines in the first 6 months of life. But the antivax community won’t tell you that.

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Chris's avatar

Since no virus has ever been proven to scientifically exist why the hell would you stick anything in anyone’s arm that shouldn’t be there???! A hyper needle bypasses all the bodies, protective barriers, injecting poison right into the bloodstream just like a snake injects venom. This is not done by accident. This is intentional poisoning. Animal needs to be injected with with anything inside a so-called vaccination.

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Ted's avatar

I would say extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but in your case I think absurd claims require just some evidence. What evidence to you have that AIDS is caused by poppers? What evidence do you have that disputes the existence of viruses? Are you saying all doctors are part of a cabal who are intentionally poising patients?

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Mike S's avatar

In English, please.

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Dave Devine (Cologne, Germany)'s avatar

Those were all words saying, "I've fallen for anti-vax propaganda."

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Mike S's avatar

Thanks for the translation!

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Albus's avatar

And you still can't read the ingredients in vaccines correctly......or understand them!

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Chris's avatar

Even after six beers in a row(shame on me) my arguments were still four times as powerful as any of you germ theory retards could come up with. Perhaps you should do The flat/motionless earth of favor intake as many mRNA chemical weapon injections as they will allow you to take an in the words of Ebeneezer Scrooge” reduce the surplus population”. One mRNA injection a month, in your bound to get the real deal, a whole bunch of lipid nano, toxic particles Heaters Harry Kissinger, apparently was right, you fools really are”useless eaters”

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Ted's avatar

Oh, so you have been making arguments this whole time. What exactly are your arguments? I am not talking about nonsense claims. What are your logical arguments? What are your premises? (viruses don't exist, AIDS is caused by poppers, flat earth etc.), What is the evidence for any of these topics you keep bringing up? Using your evidence, can you draw a clear connection to your conclusions? Feel free to continue to inserting your childish insults into your comments. Just provide a semblance of coherent thought.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Agree

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Norm Michael's avatar

The Liar in Chief is the only one that can remove him and you know that isn’t happening.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

No this is actually what they want to happen.

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steve's avatar

I have made the case that Kennedy could be jailed for the morbidity and mortality his lies have cost. Read about it here: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/02/health/shingles-vaccine-dementia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U4.n861.XlZXnRpI6I4G&smid=url-share

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Considering America's high mortality rate pre AND post COVID, every Secretary of DHS deserves to be jailed. RFK is the only one who is not a Big Pharma shill.

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BillyJoe's avatar

Honestly I thought you were dead. Perhaps it would have helped save those children in Texas if you were. I will write that on your tombstone when you eventually relieve the world of your odious presence.

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Albus's avatar

Wow!

How could anyone finish 5th grade and fall for such BS?

Oh, those are your "patients"!

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Bill is Here's avatar

Hmmm... So Canada has less than half the excess mortality of the US, but a 20% higher coVid Vax rate... Any connection?

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Julie Bo's avatar

the problem is is that you read the NYT- why don’t you read the articles on the Children’s Health Defense website and the interviews with the doctors that were actually given access to the first girls medical records. Incredible interview with the parents of the girl and of the doctor that has been treating that community since the outbreak.

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steve's avatar

No I do not get my science info from the NYT, or from the CHD, which is totally biased. I get mine from science journals and reports, which are are peer reviewed and screened for poor methods and bias. You clearly do not. And an anecdotal interview with the parents of ONE patient is NOT a reason to make a broad medical decision for all people!! THAT is why medical science eschews anecdotal claims and, instead, relies on controlled trial of many people. Stop spreading your nonsense!

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Albus's avatar

Your problem is that when it is proven that CHD is lying, you don't care.

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Julie Bo's avatar

they are not lying

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🌀EmmE🌀's avatar

Julie you’ve handcuffed your entire identity to a psychopath and now you’re an emotional addict to whatever nonsense anyone puts out, that taps your FEELINGS and keeps you from admitting that you’ve become a fool’s tool.

No longer able to think for yourself, your curiosity has vanished, and now you must ingest daily or even hourly, anything that confirms your feelings… to keep you from crashing every time REALITY doesn’t line up with what you’re being pushed.

As you age this will become harder.

As Trump becomes more and more unstable, so will you!

You are literally doing to your brain what an addiction to substance does long term.

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Julie Bo's avatar

You’ve got me completely wrong Emma.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Well we the people showed up so the sleeping giant is awakened.

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Julie Bo's avatar

What facts do you base your claim on?

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steve's avatar

What FACTS do you base your silly claims on?? Anecdotes? Unpublished, unreviewed "science"?? You are a fraud.....

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J K's avatar

And you're a moron.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

So childish of you. 2 Kids have died.

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rombios's avatar

First child died of pneumonia due to hospital intervention NOT measles

https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/pierre-kory-exposes-measles-death-hoax

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

https://rumble.com/v6r5b5o-chd-interview-with-the-parents-of-texas-measles-girl-who-died-of-pneumonia-.html

In time we will find out that this second child died of something else that is being blamed on measles in order to advance an agenda.

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BillyJoe's avatar

I can understand that antivaxxers need to try to absolve their guilt by coming up with all sorts of bullshit but you have to know no one is buying your excuses. Those children died because they were unvaccinated and got infected with the measles virus. And YOU are one of the lying arseholes who killed them. Period.

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J K's avatar

Gosh, you're dumb hypochondriac charlatan. Go inject yourself with animal puss and arsenic. That will help you for sure. I heard vaxtxards think it is great medical treatment.

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Albus's avatar

I see that the anti-vaccs prey upon folks too stupid to read the ingredients in vaccines.

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Baya Lazz's avatar

You are in lala land. There is no "measles virus" or "vaccinated" and "unvaccinated".

https://odysee.com/@firestarter:7/SLJS-05-Measles-German-High-Court-Stefan-Lanka:7

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Albus's avatar

All it takes is the integrity to read the Court rulings to see the anti-vacc lies!

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BillyJoe's avatar

Thank you for exposing yourself as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Nothing more needs to be said.

(BTW, Stefan Lanka is a science crank, who won that case on a technicality because he asked for "one study" and he was given THREE STUDIES)

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Mike S's avatar

Imagine if you would what the antivaxers would be blaming the death on if either of these children had had MMR vaccine rather than having measles.

Do you think they'd be claiming..."Nah, absolutely no way was this the vaccine...it was medical negligence!" ...Fat chance.

After all, RFK has clear personal form on this one...recall how he blamed MMR for the deaths of 2 kids in Samoa when those deaths *actually WERE* due to medical negligence?

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

The fact these kids were hospitalized tells me they were very sick. Why do you minimize disease? Why do you want to harm innocent children? And more will die due to stupidity.

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Chris's avatar

That two children were ill, proves nothing about the existence of a virus. People get ill all the time, and they usually get more ill when they’re in the hospital because they are fed, processed carbohydrate, crap food, and continually injected with poison and woken up every 35 minutes by some battle ax nurse smacking them around sticky needles in their arms and tubes up their butt and up their penis, it’s a wonder gets out of hospital Alive

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Mike S's avatar

We already know the second child's death is being blamed [yet again] on medical error (when there was none).

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Chris's avatar

How did you possibly know there was no medical error? Medical errors are made every single day. The worst place you could possibly be if you want to stay alive is in a hospital. You should know this.. I think your chances of survival might be better in the trenches of Ukraine. I’m just being slightly facetious.

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Mike S's avatar

Well the antibiotics given were appropriate, so no error there. I suppose it’s possible that she died when someone unplugged her ventilator when they wanted to brew some coffee.

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J K's avatar

Hypochondriac vaxtards will deny and deny and deny. In the meantime: Studies suggest that medical errors contribute to between 250,000 and 440,000 deaths annually in the United States, making them a significant cause of preventable deaths. But noooooo, somehow an injection of aluminum, green african monkey kidney cells, formaldehyde , polysorbate 80 etc.... that is supposed to make you healthy according to a vaxtard.

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Mike S's avatar

Well I guess if you are stupid enough to believe that fully half of all deaths in hospitals come from medical errors and not disease then you’d pretend these kids both died from medical errors, but even then by the law of averages only one of them died from that. What about the other one?

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Albus's avatar

Still waiting for one anti-vacc to have the integrity to read the studies on medical errors.

And you still can't read the ingredients in vaccines correctly.

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steve's avatar

liar!!

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J K's avatar

So uniformed of you. Wayyy more died from your poisonous injections of filth.

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Ken Barber's avatar

When I see life-saving vaccines, which have a two hundred year record of saving lives, referred to as "poisonous injections of filth" --

I know I am not dealing with the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.

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J K's avatar

When I see uniformed idiot who believes bullshit propaganda, who has noooo idea that all these disesases and also those that there was never a "vaccine" for, all decreased in prevalence by well over 90%, some even 99% before any vaccine was invented which clearly shows vaccines never eradicated anything and that yes, injecting diseased donkey or cow puss into healthy human is filthy and stupid then I definitely know that I am dealing with a cretin who believes in superstion and charlatanism.

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Albus's avatar

Yes, the anti-vacc liars prey upon folks too stupid to understand 5th grade science.

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Baya Lazz's avatar

They could have eradicated other dangerous quack treatments that used to cause a lot of deaths at least in so far as those attached to the label measles. Course kids might still be getting dodgy treatments and dieing from them without any fuss because the deaths are given some other label.

"It was a day of frequent and heroic dosage and equally frequent and heroic bleeding. In the South, during the summer, there was a cry of fever, fever, fever, and calomel was used (a mercury chloride mineral with formula Hg2Cl2, mercury(I) chloride. By the 19th century, calomel was viewed as a miracle drug. It was used against almost every disease, including syphilis, bronchitis, cholera, ingrown toenails, teething, gout, tuberculosis, influenza, and cancer) along with quinine (medication used to treat malaria and babesiosis). These were administered lavishly, thus adding to the horror."

https://www.healthscience.org/dr-john-h-tilden-biography/

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Ken Barber's avatar

Yes, me too. And I like your use of the word "cretin."

You know where that word comes from? It's French for "Christian."

And one hell of a lot of anti-vax people (aka vaxtards) are devout Christians.

If the shoe fits...

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Chris's avatar

Please show the evidence that vaccines are any more than unadulterated toxins being injected into the body. I can show you within two minutes that there is no scientific proof for the existence of any virus.

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Albus's avatar

Please find us one anti-vacc that is even functionally literate!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toxin

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Chris's avatar

I would love to argue with your lack of history

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Chris's avatar

Bullshit

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Chris's avatar

The sad reality is, Rockefeller allopathic, germ theory medicine is in the cult of death. And all of these mind controlled idiots who have spent years in medical school being indoctrinated into pharmacological lies, and spent hundreds of dollars and are still in debt to this day will never have the courage to admit the reality that they were duped, it’s just too painful, and frankly too expensive

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Albus's avatar

The sad reality is that the internet makes it easier for the anti-vacc liars to prey upon fools.

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Chris's avatar

That’s one sin I never do, lie. If I’m wrong, I will admit it and try to fix it, but you sure, sound like an ideological matrix living idiot I will repeat myself, there is no scientific evidence for the existence of any virus,. Animals get sick for many reasons, but is not because of a fictional virus or bacteria But you can go on living your life where in a mask that is woven in millimeters, where fictional viruses are measured under the electron microscope in nanometers. Are you intelligent enough to know what I am saying to you, sir you can continue to take an mRNA injection, which you know not what is in, despite the fact that my friend Dr. Michael Eden, former president of Pfizer has declared it a potentially lethal chemical weapon. But go ahead take one every week and is Ebeneezer Scrooge. One said, rid the earth of the surplus population “

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Chris's avatar

Hundreds of thousands of dollars

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BillyJoe's avatar

Lying antivax lunatic child killer. Hang your head in shame.

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J K's avatar

Lying murderous psychopathic freak. Go jump of a cliff you cretin.

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BillyJoe's avatar

J K <-- "Lying murderous psychopathic freak ... cretin".

A snotty-nosed schoolkid red in the face and stomping his little feet. Too funny.

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Chris's avatar

Both you and I really know nothing about this child. And there is no trust in the media which is promoting a germ theory get an injection propaganda. They want all the sheep injected with as many poisons as I can to keep us quiet, sick, dumb, incident, and cowardly, there is not one good thing that you could say about a vaccination. It is simply full of toxins that do not belong in an admirals body. If you really believe in viruses, you know all viruses are dead so why would you inject more into your

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Chris's avatar

Body that makes no rational sense. How could something that is dead, hijacked your metabolism and cause it to replicate by the zillions? This is complete fear-based nonsense perpetrated by people who are trying to make money and keep you ill and unwilling to stand up for your own health.

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Albus's avatar

Virus are not dead.

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Chris's avatar

Alleged viruses have no metabolism according to virologists. That is one of the primary definitions of life. Therefore, according to virologists, viruses, all viruses are dead. Of course, in reality, viruses have never been proven to exist. All they are seen under electron microscope, or cellular debris from necrosis brought on by poisoning by antibiotics.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Fine don’t get one and you have that right! I have the right not to be infected so please wear a damn mask! I don’t want your disease or germs. As an RN I protect my patients and I take care of babies and children and that includes infection control. Not everyone has perfect immune systems

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Chris's avatar

I’m sorry, but you walked right into this one. You’re making it too easy for me. Those face diapers that you wear are woven in millimeters. Alleged viruses, they don’t really exist, or measured under the electron microscope in nanometers. end of report.

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Mike S's avatar

The viruses aren’t floating around naked in the air. They are enclosed in droplets, which are larger than the holes of a decent quality mask. Masks also prevent “projectile” exhalation, in the same way that a hedge acts as a wind break.

There will be leakage around the sides of the masks however.

Experiment:

Put on a mask and try and blow out a candle. Why can’t you do it if oxygen and nitrogen molecules are smaller than the holes in the mask?

Thought experiment:

Why do mosquito nets reduce the risk of spreading yellow fever? Are the viruses too large to pass through a net?

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Albus's avatar

So you can't understand the math showing they work.

And you can't understand the basic biology about relevance of pore sizes.

No wonder the anti-vaccs fool you so easily!

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rombios's avatar

How the hell did she become a nurse? They must be giving out nursing degrees like Education degrees.

Even my 12 year old can see his breathe/water vapor/steam leaving a mask on a cold winter day.

If they can get through how much more so called viral pathogens.

Inevitably someone will ask why do surgeons wear a mask. They wear masks to prevent spittle and foreign agents from entering OPEN wounds. They dont wear it to protect from contracting an illness

How did this woman become a nurse ?

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Bye Chris I can’t fix stupid but disease will! Have a nice day! I’ll probably see you in the ICU I’ll do my best to save your life! Bye now have a great day- no further discussion

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J K's avatar

As an obsessive hypochondriac, you chose a wrong profession!

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rombios's avatar

Wear a mask for what? Are you stuck in 2020? Have you learned nothing?

Masks are useless.

Do this simple experiment. Don a mask on a chilly day. That steam trail exiting from you mask is water vapor which is many sizes larger than so called viral pathogens

If water vapor can permeate your mask what hood are they against a virus.

What kind of a nurse are you? Did you lose common sense when you became a nurse?

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Albus's avatar

Correction: we learned that anti-vaccs will lie about masks and count on folks being stupid.

The size of virus is still the wrong measure........just like all the previous times!

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

What do you know about this child that makes you so expert? I am RN work with leading scientists globally and work in pharmaceutical and devices I won’t lie to you

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Chris's avatar

And because of all your good titles, I fear you were under a complete mind control a big Pharma and all their fallacious lies. I am no scientist. I’m just a man who knows how to think correctly, that is to use reason not ideological fear based nonsense of germs, which simply do not exist. All illness is simply a detoxification of the body in order to get well. They’re admitting reasons and animal gets ill, but it is not because of fantasy viruses that have never ever ever been proven to scientifically exist, and bacteria does not make you sick. They are not germs, they are janitors there to clean up a mess, that generally we have created through various means. I think you really know to be true in your heart. If you have worked in the hospital, you know that’s one of the worst places for people to be.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Explain to me the difference between a drug with 50 years of use with known behavior and compared to a brand new drug. You’re the one on kool aid buddy! I’d tell you you can pretty much trust a product with 50 years of use it has an established profile. People haven’t seen these diseases but know we are because of fear! Because media has sold you a bill of goods! And they want to kill you

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Julie Bo's avatar

Have you read any of the articles on the Children’s Health Defense Website? These amazing doctors were given access to the child’s’ records - they did not die of measles

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

If the virus continues to spread at this pace, the country risks losing its measles elimination status, a hard-fought victory earned in 2000. Public health officials in West Texas said that the outbreak is likely to persist for a year.

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J K's avatar

How the fuck is this supposed to happen if majority of people is vaccinated.???? Are you saying these vaccines don't work??? Why is it spreading when well over 90% of people is vaccinated? If you would , for once , try really, really hard and think for a minute about all the shit you believe, maybe you would free yourself of your hypochondriac obsession.

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Albus's avatar

I am saying that anti-vacc liars prey upon folks too stupid to understand 5th grade math.

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J K's avatar

Other way around. Vaxxtards and eugenicists pray upon people that are too busy, lazy or easy to scare and never find out the history of the injectable filth. How does it feel to be their bitch??

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Please don’t swear at me

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Good luck! Bye and don’t swear at me

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J K's avatar

You deserve it. Because of your profession, I assume you know how many children you kill and injure. Just like veterinarians know very well how many pets that injure with "vaccines".

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Chris's avatar

Contagion does not exist. That is a fallacy. The 1911 “Spanish flu “was caused by electro, magnetic frequency, radio waves the horrors of trench warfare, horrible nutrition, and vaccines civilians, who did not receive the vaccine for the so-called Spanish flu never got the Spanish flu. That is a fact of history.

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Albus's avatar

Sigh....it is still 6th grade science to prove that contagion exists....

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Chris's avatar

Actually, it’s not it’s just that you were under buying control in your testicles have shrunk and crawled up into your body and you’re thinking like a scared 60 year-old osteopathic woman

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Chris's avatar

Two children have sadly died, Allegedly. there is no proof as to what they have actually died from. There is absolutely no scientific evidence that any virus actually exist and I mean none you need to come to grips with his fact, animals, get sick for many reasons, but it is not because of viruses or bacteria.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

The child’s death, at a hospital in Lubbock, Texas, early Thursday morning, is the second confirmed fatality from measles in a decade in the United States.

The child died of “measles pulmonary failure,” according to records obtained by The New York Times.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

You really are sick. 2 children died from measles. A virus. It’s a fact. Honor their lives.

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Chris's avatar

Please stop with the emotional nonsense. I’m the father of two small children and I love people more than you could possibly imagine the real monsters are those assholes sticking needles and peoples arms particularly the so-called mRNA gene therapy which in reality is a deep population chemical weapon and has murdered over 30 million people around the earth and injured 1 billion people and growing every damn day, have you ever heard of “turbo cancer”!

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Albus's avatar

Please learn basic words like "gene therapy" before posting more BS.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Well I can understand that and I appreciate you want to do the right thing for your children! That’s good! We agree on that!

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Usamnesia's avatar

I appreciate your effort to enter a profession that is considered noble from various perspectives. However despite your experience and letters after your name you truly have lost any credibility by your statement on masks. Most sentient folks now realize that in a profit driven health industry…patients are recurring revenue streams and it seems your presence in such a top down autocratic architecture has captured some of your ability to reason. We will avoid any ethics comments as the author of this piece is entirely a byproduct of the new adage” follow the money to find the science”

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Albus's avatar

And anyone that bothers to look sees that masks work.

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Sobshrink's avatar

I think that worm didn't just damage his brain; I think it also decimated his heart. I cry just looking at a child's coffin.

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rombios's avatar

Liar.

But you wont cry about vaccine injured children. See no evil, Hear no evil.

You overpaid pharma-shills really need more original content

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BillyJoe's avatar

rombios <-- "liar"

Every accusation is an admission.

You should be jailed for complicity in the murder of a second innocent child in Texas.

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Chris's avatar

I noticed you have weak knees

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Chris's avatar

The only accusation which is an admission is that of Israel

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Albus's avatar

You are see evil and do more and more evil!

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Sobshrink's avatar

Pharma-shill, like your boy, RFK Jr? He just stated, “The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine.” Maybe the sight of a child in his coffin finally got to him.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5235025-rfk-jr-consoles-texas-family-mmr-vaccine-measles/

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Chris's avatar

The MMRinjection is the worst kind, even admitted secretly by the CDC leading to mass autism among infants. No animal would ever become ill with three illnesses simultaneously. That’s not even a possibility in the MMR shot shoots amounts of aluminum into the brain of an infant, causing massive toxicity. This simply is undeniable and you really need to screw your balls on real tight and get a grip on reality, and stop being a soy boy . At this juncture of reality, real men, Spartan men like my ancestors are seriously needed to stop this travesty

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Albus's avatar

"The MMR injection is the worst kind, even admitted secretly by the CDC leading to mass autism among infants."

Where did they admit that?

"That’s not even a possibility in the MMR shot shoots amounts of aluminum into the brain of an infant, causing massive toxicity"

There is NO aluminum in MMR.

It is not possible to be functionally literate and to fall for the anti-vacc lies.

https://www.fda.gov/media/75191/download

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Sobshrink's avatar

First, I'm no soy boy; I'm a woman of nearly 70 who lifts weight. Sorry to disappoint you. Second, your ancestors, like mine, had an average life expectancy about half or less than currently throughout our evolution on this planet, mostly due to death from those non-existent pathogens, even though they didn't eat highly processed food and got lots of exercise. Even RFK Jr is now promoting the MMR vaccine after his most recent trip to Texas. I don't plan to respond any more because you are too far down the rabbit hole and I have better things to do with my time.

https://slate.com/technology/2013/09/life-expectancy-history-public-health-and-medical-advances-that-lead-to-long-lives.html

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First, none of your sources are credible except PubMed, but that source wasn't relevant, since the article said that children who are DEFICIENT in vitamin A, (and also D and E) are more susceptible to respiratory infections, which Dr. Offit has already discussed. But this child was reported as being in otherwise "good health," so presumably she was not deficient in any vitamins, and providing vitamins to kids who have measles but are not deficient does nothing, and some kids are being given too much and are getting sick from excessive vitamin A, which is toxic when overdosed. Having said that, if the hospital did give her the wrong antibiotics, then they were negligent and that is very easy to prove. At this point, the medical records have not been released to the public, so it has not been proven. The parents have the records and no doubt will sue if, in fact, the standard of care was not followed, so whatever the truth is, it will come out, so I will wait and see on that one. I'm surprised the parents even let her be given antibiotics, since many anti-vaxxers (including commenters here) don't even believe pathogens exist, in which case, antibiotics are pointless. The paranoid anti-vaxxers are already suggesting they killed her on purpose to support their narrative, and that just shows me how wacko those folks are. The bottom line is that she caught the disease that killed her (measles kills via pneumonia) because she was unvaccinated. But keep on believing vaccines are evil. I don't care. But you may want to avoid rabid animals because if you get bit by one, then you will have to decide whether to cling to your "rabid" beliefs and die or come to your senses. Again, choose what you want; I don't care.

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Bill is Here's avatar

RomBios is an angry University of YouTube graduate (major seems too be reading books by conspiracy theorists ..)

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Chris's avatar

Please stop all your appeals to authority nonsense. Look at the scientific evidence and don’t appeal to a motion.

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Sobshrink's avatar

First, I never made any appeals to authority, and I HAVE looked at the scientific evidence. Since I actually do cry at the sight of a child's coffin, that was a statement of fact. As for appealing to "a motion," I see you not only skipped out of Science class, but also English.

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Chris's avatar

OK, you got me at that one I was talking to my phone. But that’s probably more Bill Gates fault than mine. I’ll say one more time obviously you have not investigated how they claim to prove the existence of any virus. It is pseudoscientific, not isolation, but rather contamination with two types of kidney toxic antibiotics and starvation of the monkey kidney cell. This is a farce. Germs simply have never been proven to exist

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I'm glad you replied to yourself. At least you have somebody to talk to. I guess Bill Gates and his magnets are why we die from, um, what is it again? I mean, no such thing as pathogenic viruses or bacteria. I'm so happy to hear that! If you get bit by a rabid dog, be sure NOT to take the rabies vaccine.

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Chris's avatar

Yes, you heard me right no such thing as pathogens. Illness is brought on by many factors, but not by bacteria or fake viruses.

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Sobshrink's avatar

Well, that's wonderful news. I can't understand why so few people in the world believe that. I guess they just don't understand your genius. For your sake, I hope none of the rabbits living with you in that rabbit hole have rabies.

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Chris's avatar

At this point, you fools have got my blood up so hard I would encourage you all to take as many mRNA lethal injections as you can. Perhaps Klaus Schwab and Henry Kissinger were right,” useless eaters.”

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Chris's avatar

But please continue to take vaccinations, and is Ebenezer Scrooge one said,” lower the surplus population “

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Chris's avatar

You were either a liar or you don’t know what real scientific method is. Because what the virologist claim to be, the cytopathic effect is nothing more than starvation in poisoning not any diseased tissue.

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Albus's avatar

Translation: you don't understand any virology and you won't learn any.

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Christopher Hickie MD PhD's avatar

NBC's headline was "Second measles death reported in Texas".

NYT's headline was "A Second Child Dies of Measles in Texas"

Headlines needs to read: "The US anti-vaccine movement spearheaded by Robert F Kennedy Jr has killed a second unvaccinated child with measles." Make these cold-hearted, grifting child killers own their carnage.

Enough of this bullshit.

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Concerned Citizen's avatar

Amen! It's because of vaccination that we had eliminated the disease. People got complacent and now as always children suffer for poor parental decisions. I know the parents are suffering now but this could have been avoided. Maybe this will wake up some parents.

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Tom Martin's avatar

The measles vaccine was not given to one sole until the big measles outbreak was relatively zero so how could it be responsible for eliminating it? Easy to check-search for a graph of measles outbreaks & notice dates of the huge outbreak especially when it was mostly over-never entirely. Then search separately for the date that the measles vaccine was created & deployed. Then search if getting the measles is ever a side effect of getting the measles vaccine. Then u may wonder why do some people hide these facts making it seem so obvious that the vaccine is perfect & unquestionable. Of course you can just continue to trust your sources & never question things you are told (sold). I need to add—one has to search measles outbreaks in late 1800s & early 1900s. Graphs of outbreaks in the 1940s & 1950s were just ending but still significant when the vaccine was “licensed”. This explains: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9150958/

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Alan Gilbertson's avatar

Having done so, I can only conclude that the vaccine knocked down measles infections with gusto. The research, graphs, statistics, and dates are perfectly clear and easy to cross-check.

Deployment of the vaccine in 1963 preceded the drop in measles cases from over 450,000 in that year (it had been over 400k every year since 1951, when baby boom kids flooded public schools) to less than 20,000 in 1968. There was no sudden change in nutrition or public sanitation in 1963, so it was the vaccine that ended the outbreak, if you can call 12 consecutive years an "outbreak." The improved 1968 vaccine and the 1989 second-dose recommendation precede complete elimination of measles in 2000.

"Measles as a side effect of the vaccine" has no citation in a scientific journal. (A mild rash ten to fourteen days after vaccination that quickly fades is not "measles." That's scare-mongering.)

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Chris's avatar

Nope

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Albus's avatar

Math too difficult?

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BillyJoe's avatar

Lying arsehole. And learn to spell "soul" you uneducated bogan.

Those lying graphs have been completely exposed and you know it.

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BillyJoe's avatar

Let me help you here:

1) A point-by-point debunking of the lies of this vile creature by 6 scientists in "Unbiased Science" and "Deplatform Disease" appropriately titled:

"Lies, Damned Lies, and Suzanne Humphries"

2) Similar treatment of this arsehole on 'Debunk the FUNK":

"I watched Joe Rogan talk to Suzanne Humphries so you don't have to"

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Chris's avatar

Where did you soy boy? I’ve got some spare time on my hands and I’m gonna have a good time with you after you mocked my beloved mother I won’t do anything of the kind to you. I’m sure your mother is a beautiful person, but you are obviously a piece of shit too many drugs apparently I would love to meet you in person, not only would you need a dentist but you would need a proctologist after I rip you a new fucking asshole

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BillyJoe's avatar

Wow! I think Chrissy baby is Crazy angry with me for exposing his Cretinous Conspiracy Crap.

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Mike S's avatar

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/209448

"A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus. Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively."

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rombios's avatar

Dear audience scroll to the bottom to see the conflict of interest

PAY particular attention to the last part of the paragraph in the above study which was paid for , prepared, reviewed and interpreted by the CDC

Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.

Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.

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Mike S's avatar

Yes, the CDC produced the data. They are the agency which collates all the incidence and mortality data for infectious diseases in the US.

Who do you expect to have done this work...the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration?

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Tom Martin's avatar

Thanks! Other graphs don’t agree w that one but it fits reality with vaccines in general. I have not compared cases & vaccines. May be higher cases well into 1940s. I’m out of time to check but am happy w my response to critics.

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Emily's avatar

Your statements are completely wrong. The statistics and graphs show the exact opposite of what you state. You are getting your information from sources who are lying to you.

A "sole" is the bottom of a foot. A "soul" is a reference to an everlasting spirit of a human. Look deeply into your own soul to understand why you want to believe lies instead of the truth. Your passions are misguided. Open your heart and mind to the truth.

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rombios's avatar

https://dissolvingillusions.com/graphs-images/

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

If you have an alternate graph that plots mortality rates to child hood illnesses over the same range as the above - kindly post it

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BillyJoe's avatar

This lying arsehole antivax child killer has referred to a book by another lying arsehole antivax child killer. What a surprise!

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Chris's avatar

Do all a favor and up your intake of mRNA chemical weapon injections next week

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Emily's avatar

In substack, look at Dr. Andrea Love March 24 of this year. She discusses the very chart you reference. In any case, there is so much accurate information out there written by scientists and doctors, asking me for a link is pretty silly.

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Tom Martin's avatar

Google offers them 1st when searching.

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Falstaff's avatar

Measels is not eliminated. Its rapid spread is eliminated. Breakouts of a few hundred or dozen occur every year. Stop w the handw

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Chris's avatar

You have no idea why these two children died or if they even really died you’re believing the media that promotes Rockefeller pharmacological drugs. These two children if they really existed were probably highly drugged up and their bodies weakened while they were going through a detoxification process, which we called the measles they should’ve been left the hell alone and they would’ve been just fine as millions and millions of other children have been throughout the ages going through detox Rockenfeller big Pharma is designed to keep us broke sick, stupid, and if you’re a man impotent, it’s time to wake the fuck up

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Chris's avatar

Amen bullshit, only in the synagogue of Satan

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Chris's avatar

Absolute nonsense, an appeal to authority fallacy mind control nonsense by Rockefeller, big Pharma

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J K's avatar

No, it's not.

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Free Radical's avatar

You embarrass your family

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J K's avatar

Are you jealous because you have non? So you took a dog and you abuse it too?

https://substack.com/@ooze/note/c-105678281?r=17lbua

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rombios's avatar

Hospital mismanagement is the same reason the first Texas girl died. I suspect the hospital is *killing* them on purpose to advance its agenda.

I would caution parents to AVOID that hospital at all costs!!! Someone is willing to medically intervened to a childs detriment to advance this agenda

https://rumble.com/v6r5b5o-chd-interview-with-the-parents-of-texas-measles-girl-who-died-of-pneumonia-.html

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BillyJoe's avatar

That lying antivax lunatic, rombios, is now lying in a attempt to assuage guilt for his role in the murder of innocent young children in Texas.

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Mike S's avatar

Stop spamming antivax propaganda

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Christopher Hickie MD PhD's avatar

Anti vax grifter

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

You barbarians are going to prison.

Vaccines and Biologics injury table based on mechanistic evidence – Feb 2020 Covering over 125 conditions

https://zenodo.org/records/3647593

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Albus's avatar

Thanks for the link.

It is predicated on being too stupid to read.

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BillyJoe's avatar

How many times are you going to post a link to the filthy lies that come out of the sewer mouth of Robert "child killer" Malone?

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Who corrupted you?

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BillyJoe's avatar

Robert Malone is already spreading gossip, rumour, and lies about the second child.

And you are a clueless nong if you believe anything that arsehole says.

You don't know how medically ignorant his piece was do you?

Because you are as deplorably ignorant about the stuff you talk about as that disgusting creature is.

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Baya Lazz's avatar

If there was such a thing as a measles virus it wouldn't suddenly start killing kids just because you lost an election.

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Chris's avatar

Dr., you have absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever for the existence of any virus. The test that they perform to prove the existence of any virus is the opposite of isolation, it is contamination. this is not The scientific method. It is an appeal to authority fallacy. I cannot prove viruses do not exist, you cannot prove a negative, but I can prove to you within 30 seconds people like you have never proven viruses exist. People become ill from many reasons, but it is not because of viruses or bacteria. I know emotionally that is very hard to come to grips with when you spent so many years in medical school and countless thousands of dollars. But you are wrong, germ theory is a A lie, propagated by Rockefeller pharmacological “medicine “

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Christopher Hickie MD PhD's avatar

You are flat-earth ignorant.

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Chris's avatar

Dr. you should’ve answered in the scientific manner or kept your fucking mouth shut because I’m gonna let loose on your ass I train you pencil neck motherfuckers all week long and you’re all a bunch of hardly pieces of shit that are murdering their own patients with vaccines and mRNA chemical fucking weapons and you goddamn well no it’s killing people. You are a fucking murderer, worthless piece of shit, and I’d like to get my hands around your fucking neck Neck Neck

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Chris's avatar

Yes! The Earth is flat and motionless. Kites proof, proof this helicopters proof this. Try landing an airplane on a runway moving at 1000 miles an hour in an easterly direction. You can land any which way you want to and you’re gonna crash and die every time. user my doctor or a complete fraud for your avoiding my original question which you cannot answer in any honest form other than to say I am right. If you’re smart, you will pick up the phone call up your medical school right now in demand of full refund.

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Bill is Here's avatar

Chris, having actually performed these tests, (which of course you have not), I can say that small particles which behave exactly like viruses exist.

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Chris's avatar

Have you nothing to say?

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BillyJoe's avatar

We definitely need stronger action with these child killers.

I can see why they are so desperate to shift the blame.

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Chris's avatar

here is my ad hominem🖕🏽 sit and spin motherfucker

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BillyJoe's avatar

I'm sorry Chris, if you want to lick your middle finger clean, pick someone else to deposit their shit on it, there's a good boy.

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Hesham A. Hassaballa, MD's avatar

Unless you have lost a child, like me, you do not know the horror these parents are suffering. My daughter died of cancer, and it was not preventable. What makes this tragedy horrifically senseless is that measles is COMPLETELY preventable with vaccination. My heart and prayers go out to this family.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

We evolved to DEPEND on measles (and other) infections for good health. Measles/chicken pox infections PROTECT AGAINST CANCER.

"My daughter died of cancer"

Sorry to hear that. But vaccines may have contributed.

Role of anti-carbonic anhydrase 2 antibodies induced by vaccine antigens, in the etiology of acute myeloid leukemia and other malignancies

https://zenodo.org/records/3534443

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26972449/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4103972/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(71)91186-X/fulltext

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Albus's avatar

"We evolved to DEPEND on measles (and other) infections for good health."

Nope, the anti-vaccs are liars counting on folks being morons.

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BillyJoe's avatar

"We evolved to DEPEND on measles (and other) infections for good health"

What a goddamn stupid statement.

You don't realise how incredibly stupid it is, do you, Vinu AruMUGham.

1 in 1000 die

1 in 1000 get encephalitis.

1 in 50 get pneumonia.

1 in 5 get hospitalised.

ALL can be prevented with two doses of the vaccine.

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Chris's avatar

Moron

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rombios's avatar

https://rumble.com/v6r5b5o-chd-interview-with-the-parents-of-texas-measles-girl-who-died-of-pneumonia-.html

Cry me a river!!! Your shilling is part of the problem.

No doubt you are aware of this graph

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

If not- why not ?

Be careful before you answer - your name is revealed above

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rombios's avatar

Hospital mismanagement is the same reason the first Texas girl died. I suspect the hospital is *killing* them on purpose to advance its agenda.

I would caution parents to AVOID that hospital at all costs!!! Someone is willing to medically intervened to a childs detriment to advance this agenda

https://rumble.com/v6r5b5o-chd-interview-with-the-parents-of-texas-measles-girl-who-died-of-pneumonia-.html

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Baya Lazz's avatar

The place should have been shut down when it was reported they denied a thirsty child water.

"Another area Dr. Tildren shared was one of the fallacies of the allopathic doctors: the fear of hydrating sick people. He noted that “water was forbidden to all fever patients because their systems were filled with mercury (calomel), and when Mercury is in, water must stay out; if not, salivation through mercurial poisoning takes place.” All of this is based on the principle that ”our most potent poisons are our best remedies.” The destructive effects of mercury are not confined to the mouth. After treating with mercury, physicians then use antiseptic mouthwashes and iodides (compounds with iodine in its oxidative state). Beware of both of these. Better still, beware of all drugs, including mercury in all its forms.”"

https://www.healthscience.org/dr-john-h-tilden-biography/

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BillyJoe's avatar

OMFG, are you fv<k!ng serious!

John Tilden died in 1940!

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BillyJoe's avatar

You have no training in science or medicine, have you? Of course you don't. Ignorance kills and, at present it is killing innocent children, and you are complicit. Shame on you.

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Albus's avatar

"I suspect the hospital is *killing* them on purpose to advance its agenda."

I know none of the anti-vaccs will make that claim under oath--because they are liars.

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Albus's avatar

Good thing the protocols have been posted so everyone can read the words and see your link is a bunch of anti-vacc lies.

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BillyJoe's avatar

You are clueless. That arsehole spreading lies knows that you are a science illiterate, cognitively impaired idiot. He relies on idiots like you for his income.

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Mike S's avatar

Stop spamming antivax propaganda, vinu

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BillyJoe's avatar

F.O. with your repeated link to sewer mouth malone.

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Chris's avatar

Cancer is a disease of civilization. It was never seen before. The Germans brought the cauldron to the Eskimos and started cooking their meat at that point they started to develop cancer just like the white man. Dr. Albert Schweitzer reported the same thing among the indigenous people of Gabon Africa. He never saw a case of cancer until the indigenous people started to eat, processed carbohydrates, i.e. sugar, and almost immediately he saw cancer. Cancer is not a genetic phenomenon. It is a illness of behavior or poisoning

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Albus's avatar

"Cancer is a disease of civilization. It was never seen before. "

You should really think about what the word civilization means!

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Chris's avatar

This is an appeal to emotion fallacy. The loss of a child would break the strongest man, but that does not prove viruses had anything to do with it.

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J K's avatar

Not true!!!!!!!!

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Free Radical's avatar

Exclaim more

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Chris's avatar

Thank you for another great post and for being a voice of reason. That quote from RFK’s measles book should be presented to the good Senator Cassidy, and he should be asked directly how he let this happen.

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Carol's avatar

Yes, that is what Bobby SHOULD do, but he will not. The Cult is incapable/unwilling to ever admit culpabilituy or apologize, deny/deflect is their modus operandi.

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Christopher Hickie MD PhD's avatar

Somehow Kennedy, using his anti-vaccine organization Children's Health Defense.(which he is still running, don't believe their claim that he's no longer involved which is a lie), will turn this into more anti-vaccine propaganda.

The American Academy of Pediatrics get off its butt and call these anti-vax leaders out by name directly, including. It is great that Dr Offit does this but Dr. Offit has done this long enough. The AAP has refused to go directly after anti-vaccinationists for 14 years. The AAP needs to be down in Texas right now. That is where their leadership needs to be, not hiding in their headquarters posting on social media.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

We are eliminating the vaccine industry. Get used to it.

Vaccines and Biologics injury table based on mechanistic evidence – Feb 2020 Covering over 125 conditions

https://zenodo.org/records/3647593

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BillyJoe's avatar

The cult will be powerless in 2 years and gone in 4 years. Get over it, child killer.

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Baya Lazz's avatar

Why haven't you added your fruit to your avatar? There is a public health emergency and you think you can just break the rules? Stop being so reckless and put your fruit avatar on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NRXx6U8ABQ

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I have had the opportunity to look at your list of "evidence," and do you plan to submit this trash to peers for examination for review? Of course not. You are the author of of the basest lies and unsupportable "scienceless science" imaginable. While the studies you were not foolish enough to "author" yourself urge scientific caution and further study, you AGAIN charge ahead with outright lies, gross exaggerations, and the customary foolishness. "WE" are eliminating the vaccine industry? Who included you in the equation? Your undeserved arrogance is only surpassed by your total ignorance. Madonna Mia, I have been laughing for the past 5-minutes of reading your covering 125 conditions. You would not recognize evidence if it rested on your birthday cake!

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"You incompetent, irrelevant clowns are not our peers"

Correct, you are about 5 standard deviations in intelligence and about 100 in integrity below the rest of us.

First sentence of your first link is a lie predicated on folks being too stupid to read.

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You will teach me nothing. Your "science" is worse this round than the previous time I corrected you, yet you go on to repeat the exact same foolish errors as before. You come to this site because no one reads your trash at your own site. You attempt to mooch "followers" from Dr. Offit because you are a scientific jamoke who, literally, no one cares exists. Go away and pad your silly ranks from your obscure, unreasoned, unread, and unrecognized musings on nothing. You will teach me? Not in this lifetime.

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Chris's avatar

I think Dr. you should be called out by name for poisoning people with vaccinations and other Petro chemicals. Can you tell me one good thing aluminum does in an animal body?

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rombios's avatar

AAP and AMA are culpable in promoting these toxins - dont make me laugh

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BillyJoe's avatar

"dont make me laugh"

What a vile despicable troll you are! Another child has died of measles in Texas, and you helped put her in the morgue. Have some goddamn decency.

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👎🤮

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Albus's avatar

rombios--too stupid to understand the word toxin........no matter how many times the definition is posted.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toxin

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BillyJoe's avatar

Yes, this is goiing to take more than just blog posts and YouTube videos. We are dealing with child killers here.

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Apparently along with RFK jr.

HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on CBS this Morning, April 9, 2025:

"Are you encouraging people to get the measles vaccine?"

"Okay, so that... I mean, I think that’s actually the next step. And that’s news as far as I’m concerned that you’re saying that. Because, you know, there’s the issue of the federal government. We talked about this earlier when it came... when we were talking about food, that what’s the position philosophically of the federal government in terms of public health? The federal government’s position... my position is people should get the measles vaccine. But if the government should not be mandating..."

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Albus's avatar

You keep making these claims year after year.......but all you have to show is a bunch of stupid anti-vacc lies.

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JMJ's avatar

His first cousin Ambassador Caroline Bouvier Kennedy aptly refers to him as a "predator" because he is one.

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rombios's avatar

And every member of your family loves you right?

This is classic Mis direction

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Ambassador is it? Because you respect titles. But somehow Bouvier never spoke publicly on good ole Ted actually killing a woman. And that’s Secretary Kennedy to you.

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JMJ's avatar

"Secretary" Brain worm Bobby you mean? Oh right, the conspiratorial pro-spread of contagion, science denying psychotic anti-vaxxer Bobby?

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BillyJoe's avatar

So, you are a child abuser as well as a child killer.

(she was a child when that occurred, arsehole)

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Caroline was about 11 at the time of the Chappaquiddick event. I think Ted should have gone to prison. However, it is a bit much to expect an 11 year old to take a public stand. Frankly, I don't give a damn that most of the Kennedy family is calling Bobby Jr out for the predator that he is. He is a horrible human being who is doing great damage to the US. May he burn in Hell.

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This jive turkey should either be banned or “she” should come over to my office for a free lesson and hand to hand combat

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Free Radical's avatar

"Jive turkey""

1973 called; they want their slang back.

Combat your windmills

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Good news/bad news.

First, you're right that RFK was wrong in saying that there are annual deaths from measles in the USA, when, in fact, the 1st death this year in Texas was the FIRST in 20 years! Therefore, the media's fear-mongering has to be put in this extremely extremely minor statistic.

Second, as it turns out, this new death and the previous one were not due simply to measles but to the extremely bad medical treatment, even probably medical malpractice. It is almost as though the physicians at the hospital wanted these deaths...or at least they provided such poor medical care that their actions led to these deaths.

https://www.malone.news/p/breaking-news-another-texas-child

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Christopher Hickie MD PhD's avatar

I see your mph degree was wasted on you Dana. Please turn it back in and go do some non-technical job where you can't spread disinformation like you are here.

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Well, as an honors undergraduate from UC Berkeley and then an honors graduate from UC Berkeley School of Public Health, this alma mater's alumni magazine published a 5-page interview with me. It seems that U.C. Berkeley appreciate my work: https://homeopathic.com/about/

Here is one more person who shows how little they know despite having degrees...but more important, it shows the low level of character in some people commenting here.

I welcome good critique of my work, not the poorly researched attempts at character assassination.

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Free Radical's avatar

You are a GRIFTER that profits from encouraging childhood illness.

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John Fontaine, Phm's avatar

Sir, no presumption of your character you are in all likelihood a good person BUT you factual knowledge of science is not substantiated by your comments.

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Please provide a specific example. I'm very curious what error in facts I provided so that I can either learn from you or that you will discover that your feet are firmly standing in mid-air and you need to learn from me.

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I just point out that mortality rates to childhood illnesses (as recorded since 1900 by our health departments and the health ministeries of Western nations) had decreased by 98% before vaccines were introduced.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html

https://dissolvingillusions.com/graphs-images/

Then I sit back and let the pharma-shills do their mental gymnastics

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Dear audience scroll to the bottom to see the conflict of interest between GAVI (vaccine pushers) and the CDC in reporting massaging reported illness VS mortality (which is the only thing we care about)

Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.

Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.

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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/209448

"A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus. Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively."

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Dear audience scroll to the bottom to see the conflict of interest between GAVI (vaccine pushers) and the CDC in reporting massaging reported illness VS mortality (which is the only thing we care about)

Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.

Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.

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Christopher Hickie MD PhD's avatar

Dude. I don't care where your degrees came from, but clearly you merely memorized and didn't learn a damn thing.

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BillyJoe's avatar

Yeah, there we go, Dullman just listed his credentials because he has no argument.

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Chris's avatar

Please show us all how the cytopathic affect of virologist to prove germ theory is scientific in nature

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Albus's avatar

Please learn some basic science before commenting again.

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rombios's avatar

Ladies and Gentlemen; I submit to you the GALILEO DELUSION.

The belief that science is a popularity contest or should judged by consensus. In Galileos heyday - Christopher here would be arguing for Danas death for daring to challenge the held notion that the Sun revolves around the Earth - instead of the truth Galileo almost paid his life for

Also

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

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BillyJoe's avatar

Another mental deficient who does not understand what a scientific consensus is.

Apparently, he is oblivious to the existence of science textbooks which encompass the scientific consensus.

Apparently, he is unaware that scientists use the scientific consensus as a starting point to try out new ideas that advance science.

Apparently, he is unaware that the scientific consensus is always provisional and can be modified or changed as new evidence comes to hand.

But what can you expect of a cognitively impaired science illiterate moron?

Apparently, this little guy prefers the excretions embarrassingly called books published by quacks, cranks, and charlatans.

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Free Radical's avatar

Fuck off, filthy, evil predator! You're a "homeopath."

Your website sells "Skin Healing & Moisturizing Ointment with Antiseptic Calendula!" for $75 per tube, and $300 eCourses "Learning How to Use a Homeopathic Medicine Kit."

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Dag Waddell's avatar

How could you be against getting to the bottom of these issues? Of course total transparency is the way to go, especially if public health has any aspirations to gain back public trust. Look, polling shows that trust of public health since 2019 went from over 70 percent to around 40 percent now, if in fact Paul Offit is misrepresenting this case that’s only going to make it worse. It’s time for total transparency otherwise this situation keeps getting worse.

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Mike S's avatar

“trust of public health since 2019 went from over 70 percent to around 40 percent now”

I think you are misrepresenting the surveys about trust in public health agencies. IIRC it was that 40% had a “great deal of trust” in them, and overall the percentage who trusted them was well over 50%, although it has declined during COVID thanks to the constant stream of disinformation pumped out.

What is your source for your claim?

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2821693

You kill for a living, lie to cover up your crimes and expect people to trust you.

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Albus's avatar

"You kill for a living, lie to cover up your crimes and expect people to trust you."

So sue. Oh wait, you are lying so you won't.

At least you are profoundly stupid.

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BillyJoe's avatar

Vinu "child killer" AruMUGham <-- "You kill for a living"

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Dag Waddell's avatar

Thanks for the clarification, and for confirming the public don’t trust them as much as they used to - clearly the trend is going the wrong way. Anyone blaming the decline in trust on others and not taking responsibility is part of the problem - real leaders take responsibility because they know that is the fastest path to fixing problems. Why someone that is a proponent of public health wouldn’t want to embrace a restructuring to save and make it better is a problem. Public health hasn’t operated in the world that everyone else that deals with public relations does, they have no experience in how to properly fix problems to get the population back onside.

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Mike S's avatar

You don’t reinvigorate trust in public health by appointing an antivaxer who believes HIV doesn’t cause AIDS to head up the Health Services.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Keep lying. Great way to earn trust.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

You should know this is exactly the environment you would want because if you engage in a totally transparent process if there are no problems it will be convincing and the fact that you pull that off participating in the exercise with your greatest skeptics will be decisive in rebuilding trust. Working to censor skeptics is just working against you. Look, I’m trying to help you gain a perspective of those that you need to convince. Nothing would be better than getting back to a place where everyone is on the same page, it would be so much better for our society.

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Albus's avatar

No, by understanding basic logic and math and sceince.

BTW: total transparency is still 100% impossible.......just anti-vacc BS that preys upon the most feebleminded!

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BillyJoe's avatar

You are clueless, son, and we have shown that in previous comments. I'm surprised you still show your face around here.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

You have nothing but insults. The cats out of the bag, too many people see right through your manipulative tactics now for you to be effective.

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Albus's avatar

You are the one the supports fraud that kills people.

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BillyJoe's avatar

No children dying of measles in 20 years and now 2 unvaccinated children in a month.

I have a feeling people are going to see through YOUR deceitful tactics.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

transparency in these situations is required. Public health’s record during COVID to misrepresent deaths as COVID deaths has caused them to be discredited, what they report can’t be accepted without an audit. That’s the consequence of censoring and spreading propaganda. But it’s a free country, you have nothing to be anxious about, no one is working to prevent access to the products for those that want them.

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More attacks, you’re supporting my case that you have run out of ideas of how to control the narrative. It’s time for total transparency Mr unstable molecule, otherwise you’re fuelling the fire of mistrust. Look, it’s at the stage that you either convince the public and your skeptics with everyone at the table at the same time or your declining trust worsens. Why the hesitation to pull back the curtain, it’s as though you know with everything on the table not even the greater good argument will hold up. I just want to see the truth and there are too many examples that everyone can see where public health intentionally misled people, comments during COVID like, the Covid vaccine is exactly like all the vaccines we are so familiar with, just like the polio vaccine. Well, nothing could be further from the truth and if they will misrepresent that, what else are they prepared to not tell the truth about? Anything I think is the answer.

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>It’s time for total transparency Mr unstable molecule, otherwise you’re fuelling the fire of mistrust. Look, it’s at the stage that you either convince the public and your skeptics with everyone at the table at the same time or your declining trust worsens.

They dont seem to get it. Who would have imagined the likes of RFKjr and Jay Battachara holding positions in Public Health agencies.

These pharma-shills dont understand that each day each vaccine damaged child will force this issue to the limelight.

Especially now that the main stream news media NO LONGER holds the monopoly on news. And even the controlled social media (Youtube/IG/Facebook) is facing challenge from the likes of Rumble/Telegram/Minds/Gab/Bitchute

There are entire Telegram channels devoted to news and orbitruaries of vaccine damaged people. Information you wont see on main stream media for obvious reasons

https://rumble.com/v4uxclx-compilation-of-pfizer-sponsored-tv-shows.html

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BillyJoe's avatar

The child killer is confusing science with politics.

Yeah, he is THAT stupid.

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The old tools that allowed the propaganda to be safe and effective for them has fallen apart and people see it, and like all adoptions curves they eventually go vertical. If I was them I’d be getting out front and coming clean and looking to be part of the solution. You can tell they are out of ideas and as they double down on old tactics. The disservice they are doing not only discredits themselves but also does harm to everyone that is losing or has lost trust in the systems we need. Best that the implosion happens sooner than later so that society can get on at fixing the problems. Many of these people believe so strongly they refuse to reject studies / experiments that their arguments are based on that aren’t able to produce repeatable results. The “science” they argue from behind is junk, and even past directors of agencies and editors of journals have said as much.

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No of course not, rates of chronic illness, autoimmune and neurological problems keep going up right along with ever more drugs and vaccines, time to get totally transparent and stop saying anything can be explored except the very products that intentionally stimulate inflammation.

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J K's avatar

No, you do.

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Gad...that $75 cost is for 5 tubes of 7 CREAM...at a 40% discount! Double gad, this skin cream includes calendula (marigolds, which are full of carotene, ideal for the skin), aloe vera (!), the herb Neem from India (!).

As for my e-course, it includes a 700+ page ebook called "Evidence Based Homeopathic Family Medicine" which provides a summary of 500+ clinical trials published in peer-review medical journals plus a link to each study, plus description of 5 to 15 of the most common homeopathic medicines for 80% of the 100+ ailments, with individualizing detail about when each homeopathic medicine is indicated. For at least 20% of the conditions, there are no homeopathic medicines listed because such ailments are of a serious and usually chronic nature and for which professional homeopathic care is indicated as an "adjunctive" treatment.

So, once again, a skeptic of homeopathy provides how they do not do their homework and show an embarrassing level of a scientific attitude. Thanx for your triple GAD comment.

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Free Radical's avatar

You're a grifting quack that encourages childhood illness and death from vaccine preventable diseases.

Soon enough, you'll join your mother, who is sloppily sucking cocks in hell.

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Mike S's avatar

Hah! So according to Dana, $75 for some quack cream is a bargain, BECAUSE IT IS A 40% DISCOUNT!

…You could not make this shit up.

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Are you ACTUALLY saying that the known chemistry that provide benefits to the skin that is found in marigolds, aloe vera, and neem is non-existent? C'mon, put up or shut up.

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Albus's avatar

I am saying that your argument fails basic counting.

But then homeopathy preys upon the innumerate.

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BillyJoe's avatar

"marigolds, aloe vera, and neem"

Stop jerking off, Dullman, you are an embarrassment.

Get on your knees and seek forgiveness for your role in the dumbing down of the population that has ended in the death of those innocent young children in Texas.

And shove that useless cream up you arse.

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Mike S's avatar

Dana, show me the published randomised, double blind, controlled trial showing the benefits of your home quack cream versus moisturiser/placebo.

How about a publication in one of the journals you go on about, like the Lancet?

…C’mon, put up or shut up!

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Wow. Thanx for showing the insane and offensive person that you are.

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Mike S's avatar

I’m just reposting what YOU claimed.

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BillyJoe's avatar

What can be more offensive than spreading misinformation that kills innocent young children. Pull you head in, arsehole, before it gets knocked off. Metaphorically of course, unlike the real death of that young child you helped kill.

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J K's avatar

And you're sick pervert that fucks dogs https://substack.com/@ooze/note/c-105678281?r=17lbua.

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John Fontaine, Phm's avatar

OMG homeopathic Rx's contain essential nothing given their inherent dilutions

You are within your rights to believe what you may, you are completely misinformed!

Please don't share your false understandings of science and medicine with your family and neighbours🙏

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rombios's avatar

Your side led this misdirection. Lets stick to the issue

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

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BillyJoe's avatar

Own goal:

One of the major causes of chronic disease is infection.

Vaccinations help prevent chronic disease by preventing infections.

Get vaccinated.

Thank you for kicking that goal.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

That's why you have a 4.3T/yr chronic disease industry now where you fraudulently claim to have prevented infections using quackccines? The third world has way more infectious disease and no chronic disease epidemic like you have created here.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Polio deaths are iatrogenic. Polio is harmless if you stay away from the barbarians that you call "doctors".

https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k5246/rr

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Mike S's avatar

You wouldn’t know valid scientific evidence if it bit you in the ass. Sorry, Dana.

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Well, Mr Foul-mouth Freddy, my ebook includes references to clinical trials published in the Lancet (multiple trials), the British Medical Journal (multiple trials), Pediatrics, Chest, Cancer, The Oncologist, Pediatrics Infectious DIsease Journal, Plos One, and others. I like to let the studies that these first-class medical journal publish speak for themselves.

But heck, since you've shown no ability or desire to become informed about homeopathic research, I'm glad that your own words here prove how many of your comments are projections upon yourself. I sincerely hope that you stop digging the hole in which you are standing.

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Mike S's avatar

Citing studies because they were published in top tier journals doesn’t validate the use of homeopathy in clinical practice. As you well know, detailed review of homeopathic studies showed that the ones suggesting it worked were all of low methodological quality and/or had significant bias and confounding; the high quality trials showed homeopathy has no effect beyond that of placebo.

But that’s all by the by…the point here is that you are in absolutely no position to comment on what is or is not appropriate treatment in cases of critical illness/severe sepsis. You have zero experience or expertise in it, so stop speculating please.

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BillyJoe's avatar

Stop advertising your crap in the commentary section of an article about a child you helped kill. FFS!

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Says the barbarian who CREATES A WOUND, DAMAGES NERVES, INJECTS a live virus vaccine into nerves, INFECTS THE WOUND as "prevention", all for a virus that enters via the respiratory tract. Route of antigen exposure matters in immunology. But you barbarians cannot understand even the basics.

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rombios's avatar

This is one of the things I learned 12 years ago that led my decision to NOT vaccinate my children.

Challenging the notion of introducing liability shielded toxins ("vaccines) into a childs bloodstream vs the path illnesses challenge children - through the bodies respiratory-gastro-intestinal filters

And of course

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

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Albus's avatar

And you still can't understand big words like toxin!

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Albus's avatar

Big surprise.

You can't understand the science or do the math.

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BillyJoe's avatar

As if you understand the first thing about immunology.

You think immunologists haven't thought about inhaled vaccines? Idiot. You think they haven't tried to make them work. Idiot.

You think they are still not trying? Idiot.

No, because you are a goddamn idiot.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Because you are unable to make an appropriate vaccine, you kill using inappropriate ones. Barbarians.

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Christopher Hickie MD PhD's avatar

Homeopaths are the flat earthers of medicine. Dumber than dirt.

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Please tell me where “flat earthers” have 500+ clinical trials published in peer-review medical journals, including the Lancet, BMJ, Pediatrics, Pediatrics Infectious Disease Journal, Plos One, Cancer, The Oncologist, and many more.

Excuse me, but you obviously don’t know shit or shinola about homeopathy and homeopathic medicine (aka nanopharmacology). Heck, we would have never heard about Charles Darwin if he didn’t get homeopathic treatment. Oh, you also don’t seem to know shinola about medical history either…

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Mike S's avatar

As has been pointed out many times, the studies of homeopathy in journals can be divided up into those that are methodologically weak with high risk of bias, and those which are methodologically strong with low risk of bias.

Guess what? When analysed, the studied without bias show NO effect from homeopathy beyond placebo.

It is only the poor studies (usually published in "homeopathy" journals), that indicate homeopathy is effective.

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Homoeopathy is the most ridiculous and obvious nonsense ever perpetrated on the public. Promoting this stupid nostrum is a sure sign of mental and moral decay.

And here is this pathetic creature promoting sales of his products and courses in the commnetary section about a child who died to measles, a death to which this arsehole contributed with his lies

How low can you get.

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rombios's avatar

"homeopathy" is the new slur. its taken the place of "antivaxxer" which since 2020 CONvid spectacle - has lost its sting

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Free Radical's avatar

It's not a slur. It's like being a phrenologist or an alchemist.

Or an astrologer.

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Albus's avatar

"a summary of 500+ clinical trials published in peer-review medical journals"

So, you think the fact there is lots of homeopathic fraud is a strong argument.......

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rombios's avatar

"Homeopath" is the new slur since "AntiVaxxer" has lost its sting

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J K's avatar

At he is not a dog rapist. Was it you who bragfed about yoyr dog bloody asshole?

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Free Radical's avatar

No one wants to hear about your animal abuse

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J K's avatar

You mean your animal abuse, you bragged about your rotweiler bloody asshole. Your comment is still online

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Mike S's avatar

Perhaps you were the reason for the dog having that problem?

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rombios's avatar

>It is almost as though the physicians at the hospital wanted these deaths...or at least they

BINGO!!!

You hit the nail on the head. I would advice all parents in the locality to blacklist that hospital for EVERYTHING

I suspect they are WILLFULLY killing children to advance and agenda.

The first Texas girl died of pneumonia from hospital intervention. All her siblings survived measles including herself without any issues.

https://rumble.com/v6r5b5o-chd-interview-with-the-parents-of-texas-measles-girl-who-died-of-pneumonia-.html

But the likes of PROFIT who would be irrelevant and unemployed if not for vaccine injured children (of which his rotavirus vaccine is a contributing part) ; need to misinform and misdirect to keep the $$$ flowing

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BillyJoe's avatar

Clearly this science illterate fvkw!t also knows nothing about medicine.

Corrections:

- Protocols were followed. Period.

- Pneumonia was a complication of measles damaging the lungs and would not have occurred if not for the measles infection.

- The mortality rate of measles in the US is 1 in 1000. It would be remarkable if all of her siblings did not survive.

- The mortality rate of the measles vaccine is FAR LESS THAN 1 in a million doses.

- Most paediatricians come out even or lose money vaccinating their patients.

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Albus's avatar

"I suspect they are WILLFULLY killing children to advance and agenda."

Correction: the anti-vaccs are lying, knowing their lies kill children.

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https://i.postimg.cc/4dBrf6k1/antivaccine-slur.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dt7zFZW8/251.jpg

YAWNNNNN. just a kind reminder that it no longer has the sting you think it does

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John Fontaine, Phm's avatar

Categorical wrongx2 1st 😢 and your 2nd false assumptions are egregious 😢😢

JJF Phm 🇨🇦

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Its called FRAUD

the same CDC whose head (Dr Julie Goerberding) left after 10 years to work at Merck?

the same CDC whose head (Dr Brenda Fitzgerald) resigned over financial conflicts of interest including holding pharm-stock options and purchasing them while head of the CDC ?

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Mike S's avatar

What would Malone (or you for that matter) know about clinical care of children with infections/sepsis?

…Absolutely Fuck all.

Go away and stick to prescribing homeopathic “light of Venus” for baldness or whatever you think it’s good for.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

You know guys like dr Pierre Kory know a lot about clinical care and he has a problem with the protocols that were followed.

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Mike S's avatar

He says he has a problem with the protocols involved….

Yes, well he has to find something to blame for the child’s death, doesn’t he?

The protocols /guidance were followed to the letter.

Of course, Kory has form in concocting bizarre protocols that aren’t evidence based…remember the MATH+ nonsense for Covid, and when Kory’s published claims they were great were all retracted?

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Dag Waddell's avatar

They delayed and didn’t use the right antibiotic, which isn’t following them to the letter. And don’t forget giving Remdesivir (an EUA drug too toxic to continue in trials to treat Ebola) was following the protocols to the letter for Covid. Also remember the papers that report the 3rd leading cause of death is improper medical care.

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Mike S's avatar

Ignoring your irrelevant deflections, the protocols for CAP in children call for ceftriaxone plus/minus MRSA cover.

….Box ticked.

For other pathogens not covered by this empirical regimen (fungi, mycoplasma, legionella, chlamydia pneumonias, mycobacteria, ESBL gm negatives etc) the guidance suggests do diagnostic testing and await the results so to direct specific appropriate antimicrobial therapy.

….Box ticked.

Kory says there was a 10 hour delay in giving azithromycin after the test was positive, but looking at the time lines of the described events (and we only have Kory’s interpretation of these; he refuses to release records for independent scrutiny), we can see that the 10 hours is the “delay” between the appropriate samples BEING TAKEN and the antibiotics being administered.

How do we know this? …because the sample taken was a bronchoalveolar lavage, so it only possibly be performed once an ETT has been sited for ventilation. Then the lab has to do PCR/DNA probe, and that takes at least 6-8 hours for results to be available.

So 10 hours is what you’d expect.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

I know you feel like you have to always take the side of the establishment. And more people see this all the time too, it’s why you’re losing trust. Again, all I’m doing is trying to help you gain perspective of your skeptics. I really hope that you guys will join in and face you skeptics at the table, it will resolve the mistrust the fastest way possible. It’s like in labour relations, the company can dig their heels in and refuse to negotiate while their business is further damaged. The companies that thrive embrace grievances and address them to the satisfaction of their opponents. I get it you’ll never have everyone onboard, but clearly the public health trust crisis has moved so far from just a fringe minority being disillusioned that they can’t be ignored, doing so will just result in a further deterioration of the situation.

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Chris's avatar

Yes, remdesevir was and is used, because it works. Please keep in mind that not everyone gets their info from the Fox/Rogan/Weinstein propaganda machine.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

You either make money from it or you are one of the poor souls that is trapped under the indoctrination

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BillyJoe's avatar

"They delayed and didn’t use the right antibiotic"

They followed the protocol, you fv<k!ng l!@r

"3rd leading cause of death is improper medical care.''

You fv<k!ng l!@r.

That paper has been completely debunked and you know it.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

Such class BillyJoe, you’re a real winner. Just keep with the derogatory attacks it does a great job exposing the fraud that you’re working so hard to contain.

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Albus's avatar

Nope, anti-vaccs monetize the lies about the protocol.

But they will never, every make these claims in Court, under oath, because they are liars.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

"Retracted" by Pharma corrupted Mengeles who are going to prison.

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Albus's avatar

Nope retracted because the hospitals provided the proof that Kory is a liar and a fraud.

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Albus's avatar

It just takes the integrity to read the protocols to see that Kory is a liar.

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Chris's avatar

Dr Pierre Kory is a disgraced quack who is no longer even board certified due to his promotion of covid misinformation. And he has no experience whatsoever with pediatrics. His comments about standard of care in pediatric pneumonia are false, both with regards to the addition of a macrolide and the inclusion of MRSA coverage. You notice how he has quoted no actually guidelines or evidence

The fact that the anti-vaxx community has to turn to a disgraced lunatic who does not even treat children, nor even have specific expertise in infectious disease, to make their point shows their desperation.

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Yes any doctor that has a mind to think outside of the indoctrination, gets whacked. The doctors during Covid that had it right, the ones that said no we can practise medicine instead of sending people home to get sicker because the establishment doctors are indoctrinated to do nothing for a virus just let it run its course, those doctors the ones that actually saves people, they were fired.

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Albus's avatar

Nope.

You only support liars and frauds.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Sepsis is an allergic reaction to bacterial or viral proteins (1–3). Vaccines contain viral and bacterial proteins. When injected, they cause IgE mediated sensitization. Upon infection, there is an inappropriate allergic host response to infection that results in anaphylaxis/anaphylactic shock that is diagnosed as sepsis/septic shock (4). Sepsis/Septic shock is slow-rolling anaphylaxis due to a ramp in antigen exposure as the pathogen actively replicates over time. Anaphylaxis on the other hand due to say food allergy, involves a step change in passive antigen exposure.

President Trump’s executive order establishing the MAHA commission (7) demands the determination of root cause for chronic diseases. Make America Healthy Again is not limited to chronic diseases alone. The root cause of sepsis needs to be understood and addressed.

Thimerosal is used as a preservative in vaccine vials because pathogen contamination is unavoidable. However, thimerosal only inactivates the pathogens but the antigens are still in the vial. Similarly, alcohol swab of injection site before administration of the injection, only kills bacteria but the antigens are still on the skin. Upon injection these bacterial antigens on the skin surface and those in the solution drawn from the vial, are all injected. All injected antigens result in IgE mediated sensitization to those antigens (8–14,14–17,17,18). Adjuvants in vaccines ensure IgE mediated sensitization to even nanogram level antigen presence.

Sepsis is an iatrogenic disease. You should stop causing it. Avoid all injections into healthy people.

References

1. Neugebauer E, Lorenz W, Rixen D, Stinner B, Sauer S, Dietz W. Histamine release in sepsis: A prospective, controlled, clinical study|. Crit Care Med. 1996 Oct;24(10):1670.

2. Y H. [Role of histamine in sepsis-induced organ dysfunction: study using knockout mice of histamine-related genes]. - Abstract - Europe PMC. [cited 2025 Feb 17]; Available from: https://europepmc.org/article/med/29998946

3. High immunoglobulin E values at admission predict mortality in ED patients with sepsis. Am J Emerg Med. 2016 Aug 1;34(8):1589–94.

4. Influenza vaccines and dengue-like disease. 2025 Feb 14 [cited 2025 Feb 16]; Available from: https://www.bmj.com/content/360/bmj.k1378/rr-15

5. Evidence that Food Proteins in Vaccines Cause the Development of Food Allergies and Its Implications for Vaccine Policy by Vinu Arumugham :: SSRN [Internet]. [cited 2025 Feb 16]. Available from: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3571073

6. COVID-19 Disease, Women’s Predominant Non-Heparin Vaccine-Induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia and Kounis Syndrome: A Passepartout Cytokine Storm Interplay - PMC [Internet]. [cited 2025 Jan 26]. Available from: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8391920/

7. The White House [Internet]. 2025 [cited 2025 Feb 15]. Establishing the President’s Make America Healthy Again Commission. Available from: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/establishing-the-presidents-make-america-healthy-again-commission/

8. Stratton K, Ford A, Rusch E, Clayton EW, Vaccines C to RAE of, Medicine I of. Evaluating Biological Mechanisms of Adverse Events. In: Adverse Effects of Vaccines: Evidence and Causality [Internet]. National Academies Press (US); 2011 [cited 2025 Feb 17]. Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190017/

9. Aalberse RC, Grüber C, Ljungman M, Kakat S, Wahn U, Niggemann B, et al. Further investigations of the IgE response to tetanus and diphtheria following covaccination with acellular rather than cellular Bordetella pertussis. Pediatr Allergy Immunol. 2019;30(8):841–7.

10. Ciprandi G, De Amici M, Quaglini S, Labò E, Castellazzi AM, Miraglia Del Giudice M, et al. Tetanus toxoid IgE may be useful in predicting allergy during childhood. J Biol Regul Homeost Agents. 2012;26(1 Suppl):S119-123.

11. Davidsson A, Eriksson JC, Rudblad S, Brokstad KA. Influenza specific serum IgE is present in non-allergic subjects. Scand J Immunol. 2005 Dec;62(6):560–1.

12. Gershwin LJ, Netherwood KA, Norris MS, Behrens NE, Shao MX. Equine IgE responses to non-viral vaccine components. Vaccine. 2012 Dec 14;30(52):7615–20.

13. Hoyt AEW, Schuyler AJ, Heymann PW, Platts-Mills TAE, Commins SP. Alum-Containing Vaccines Increase Total and Food Allergen-Specific IgE, and Cow’s Milk Oral Desensitization Increases Bosd4 IgG4 While Peanut Avoidance Increases Arah2 IgE: The Complexity of Today’s Child with Food Allergy. J Allergy Clin Immunol. 2016 Feb 1;137(2):AB151.

14. Nagao M, Fujisawa T. Inactivated influenza vaccine induces IgE antibody to the vaccine in preschool children. J Allergy Clin Immunol. 2019 Feb 1;143(2):AB228.

15. Smith-Norowitz TA, Tam E, Norowitz KB, Chotikanatis K, Weaver D, Durkin HG, et al. IgE anti Hepatitis B virus surface antigen antibodies detected in serum from inner city asthmatic and non asthmatic children. Hum Immunol. 2014 Apr;75(4):378–82.

16. Smith-Norowitz TA, Wong D, Kusonruksa M, Norowitz KB, Joks R, Durkin HG, et al. Long term persistence of IgE anti-influenza virus antibodies in pediatric and adult serum post vaccination with influenza virus vaccine. Int J Med Sci. 2011 Mar 18;8(3):239–44.

17. Tonto PB, Nagao M, Suga S, Taniguchi K, Hirayama M, Nakayama T, et al. High prevalence of IgE sensitization to inactivated influenza vaccines, yet robust IgG4 responses, in a healthy pediatric population. Influenza Other Respir Viruses. 2023 Jan;17(1):e13053.

18. Yamane N, Uemura H. Serological examination of IgE- and IgG-specific antibodies to egg protein during influenza virus immunization. Epidemiol Infect. 1988 Apr;100(2):291–9.

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Free Radical's avatar

Did Cisco fire you before or after your conspiratorial thought disorder consumed you?

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John Fontaine, Phm's avatar

WRONG 😞

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

You science-denying, defeated barbarians are irrelevant.

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Mike S's avatar

Ooooh! Scary!!!!

Good fiction, Vinu.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

You science-denying, defeated barbarians are irrelevant.

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Albus's avatar

Translation: all you have are really, really stupid anti-vacc lies!

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Albus's avatar

Definition of sepsis:

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/12361-sepsis

Definition of allergic reaction:

https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/allergic-response

Yup, the anti-vacc liars count on folks being too stupid to read a definition!

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M. Stankovich, MD, MSW's avatar

Wow. Where did you learn sepsis is an iatrogenic disease? Have you ever heard of sepsis as a complication of a UTI? Perhaps from burns? MVAs? Alcoholics with advanced cirrhotic liver disease? River parasites? Why not enlighten us with statistical data regarding other than anecdotal reports of individuals who have developed sepsis from medically indicated injections with sterile needles using aseptic techniques.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

You are a fool. Vaccines cause allergic sensitization to bacterial antigens. Do you even know what that means?

That's why you have "a complication of a UTI". Sepsis is an INAPPROPRIATE immune response to infection. What part of that do you incompetent clowns fail to understand?

"Where did you learn sepsis is an iatrogenic disease?"

Original finding. If you incompetent clowns had answers, we would have stayed in our lane.

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Albus's avatar

"You are a fool. "

Says the fool that has proven himself unable to read or count at the middle-school level!

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M. Stankovich, MD, MSW's avatar

Why not enlighten us with statistical data regarding other than anecdotal reports of individuals who have developed sepsis from medically indicated injections with sterile needles using aseptic techniques.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

"sterile needles using aseptic techniques"

You are still too foolish to understand the mechanism. We are talking about the ALLERGIC SENSITIZATION caused against bacterial antigens of DEAD BACTERIA in the vaccine/injection. THERE IS NO INFECTION AT THIS POINT. Understand some basic concepts before fooling with statistics. The sepsis happens months later due to bacterial exposure/infection caused by events COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the vaccine/injection.

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BillyJoe's avatar

Looks like Vanu "the child killer" AruMUGham just dug into his Disinformation Dump to reply to a comment. That long comment took him about as long to post as it took to copy/paste. You are MUG if you read it.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

"1st death this year in Texas was the FIRST in 20 years!"

Sorry Dana, as you point out in your second point, these are NOT measles deaths. They are iatrogenic deaths.

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Albus's avatar

"Sorry Dana, as you point out in your second point, these are NOT measles deaths. They are iatrogenic deaths"

Make your claim in Court under oath--or admit you are a liar.

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BillyJoe's avatar

Dullman: ""1st death this year in Texas was the FIRST in 20 years!""

The MUG: "hese are NOT measles deaths. They are iatrogenic deaths."

Hilarious! One mental deficient correcting another mental deficient!

Both wrong:

First measles death in 10 years.

First measles death in a child for 20 years.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

It’s nice that you take the time to address each point. Compared to 5 years ago how much do you feel confidence in public health’s position on vaccines has fallen?

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Albus's avatar

"Second, as it turns out, this new death and the previous one were not due simply to measles but to the extremely bad medical treatment, even probably medical malpractice."

Nope, the anti-vaccs are lying about the details.

One just needs the integrity to read the words.

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BillyJoe's avatar

No surprsise that perennial arsehole, Dana Ullman, is a fan of sewerage mouth, Robert Malone.

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Free Radical's avatar

Why will Kennedy be attending this funeral?

It's measles season. Happens every year (he said). No biggie ...

Will he disingenuously babble about "personal choice" and "informed consent?"

Can't wait to see the CHD narrative - about "incorrect" or "delayed" antibiotic or testing.

"This was another vaccine death!"

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Mike S's avatar

If Kennedy fulfils his agenda to stop childhood vaccination, and plans to attend the funerals of every death, he'll be extremely busy.

Prior to vaccination, more than ten thousand kids were dying each year from vaccine-preventable disease.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Sadly the people in charge are ok with this. More will die. Many fear vaccines because of books sold by RFK and seems people want to trust him rather than truth. Very sad to hear this. Also many viruses are attributed to cancer.

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Ted Higgins's avatar

The top sellers on Amazon “vaccination” heading are AntiVaxx topics. It’s crazy that four Republican Senators, who are physicians, voted to confirm RFK Jr. He has even pushed the notion that Thimerosal causes autism. 🙄🤦‍♂️

https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/thimerosal-again

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

We are eliminating the vaccine industry. Get used to it.

Vaccines and Biologics injury table based on mechanistic evidence – Feb 2020 Covering over 125 conditions

https://zenodo.org/records/3647593

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Alan Gilbertson's avatar

Fake news.

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BillyJoe's avatar

You just helped kill another child arsehole. At least have the decency to hang your head in shame. You disgust me.

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BillyJoe's avatar

You just helped kill another child arsehole. At least have the decency to hang your head in shame. You disgust me, you lying antivax lunatic.

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rombios's avatar

Its called FRAUD

the same CDC whose head (Dr Julie Goerberding) left after 10 years to work at Merck?

the same CDC whose head (Dr Brenda Fitzgerald) resigned over financial conflicts of interest including holding pharm-stock options and purchasing them while head of the CDC ?

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

Yes and notice no more measles. However people fear the vaccines now so people will die. If the virus continues to spread at this pace, the country risks losing its measles elimination status, a hard-fought victory earned in 2000. Public health officials in West Texas said that the outbreak is likely to persist for a year. Right now in Texas alone over 500 kids are sick. More will die.

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rombios's avatar

>Yes and notice no more measles.

Are you insane?\

I show you this

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

A plot of mortality rates BEFORE vaccines appeared on the market. It shows 98% of deaths decreased BEFORE vaccines appeared and your response is

>Yes and notice no more measles.

You are completely bereft of reasoning skills.

>Right now in Texas alone over 500 kids are sick. More will die.

Massaged numbers and irrelevant. If vaccines work and your children are vaccinated - why would you care whether mine are not

Answer that simple question - dont tell me that b.s about immunocrompromised children who cant get vaccinated. myth of herd immunity

Simple question

if vaccines work and your kids are vaccinated WHY would you care that others are not ?

bonus round.

of all of the drugs in the U.S market ONLY vaccines have liability shielding. Why is this not a concern of yours ?

I doubt youd even make it to the bonus round ...

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

It shows deaths prior to vaccines and when vaccine was introduced deaths disappeared

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rombios's avatar

YOu are beyond stupid.

if 98% of mortality rates decreased before vaccines were introduced then LOGIC would indicate that vaccines are irrelevant; you mental midget!!!

How did you become a nurse? They must be handing out BSNs like lifetime achievement awards at the oscars

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

No further discussion thanks bye 👋🏻

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

No your not reading the chart correct

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Albus's avatar

Many people have explained how you can't read a graph or count.

You just don't care.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

This explains better! Have a nice day

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rombios's avatar

these graphs of yours are of measles CASES not MORTALITY rates.

am not concerned about my children catching a cold, flu, measles, mumps, rubella etc am only concerned about how they fare through it. what they survive.

98% of mortality rates had decreased before measles vaccine was introduced. thats 98% drop in deaths NOT reports of measles.

https://dissolvingillusions.com/graphs-images/

And thats all am concerned about. In the mid part of the last century parents routinely took their kids to measles and chicken pox parties hoping their kids would contract it and suffer briefly to life long immunity

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

RFK attended the funeral and stated that the MMR vaccine is the “most effective” way to stop measles spread. You go on your way and please do not respond. Thanks

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5235025-rfk-jr-consoles-texas-family-mmr-vaccine-measles/

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rombios's avatar

Its called FRAUD

the same CDC whose head (Dr Julie Goerberding) left after 10 years to work at Merck?

the same CDC whose head (Dr Brenda Fitzgerald) resigned over financial conflicts of interest including holding pharm-stock options and purchasing them while head of the CDC ?

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Mike S's avatar

Spamming propaganda again, are you?

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BillyJoe's avatar

Robert Malone has been abadoned even by his murderous antivax buddies.

Both those children died because they were unvaccinated and got infected by the measles virus. Arsehole.

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Paul Snyder's avatar

As always, Thank You Dr. Offit for your efforts and clarity in discussing these issues. I first discovered your contributions in the early days of COVID and more than slightly attribute them to encouraging our housebound teen to switch from a planned future in “Fashion Merchandising” to now completing her MPH in HC Policy.

I am consistently frustrated, however, by the PH Community eye rolls and shrugs regarding the actual intent of the Trump Admin in installing RFK Jr. When I bring up the history of authoritarian regimes manipulation of the PH system, I get the “Never attribute to malice what can explained by incompetence” brush off.

It matters that we recognize WHY RFK Jr. was selected by this regime. WHY he and his front organizations have long been supported by Bots and nefarious funding mechanisms from outside the US, etc. he’s not just some bungling boob that doesn’t understand how science and biology works… he’s a tool to bring down our system.

Along those lines, I noted this piece that goes a long way to discuss this phenomenon. I have no control the author, though I feel it a comprehensive discussion of the topic without going too much into specifics

https://open.substack.com/pub/mccormickmd/p/heres-why-they-are-dismantling-the?r=4ahbh&utm_medium=ios

Thanks again for your efforts and influence. You’re a great asset to our nation and PH culture. All the Best.

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rombios's avatar

Come on bro - he must be paying you. Did he write this himself?

PROFIT would be out of relevance and unemployed if not for vaccine injured children. His rotavirus vaccine on the CDC child hood schedule is his secondary concern.

Oh and of course

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

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M. Stankovich, MD, MSW's avatar

Not paying me:

Perhaps you (and your graphs) are able to explain how the CDC reports 3,000+ diptheria deaths in the 1940s, 2,700+ polio deaths in the 1950s, 3,366 pertusis deaths between 1950 & 1960, and 6,172 measles deaths between 1950 and 1962 if "clean air, clean water, and better sanitation" BEFORE vaccinces were so effective in the US, while SUDDENLY they virtually vanished with vaccines?

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BillyJoe's avatar

This MUG is a victim of Malone Mania.

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Albus's avatar

Yes, running the anti-vacc fraud requires lying.......and fools to be scammed.

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Ginny's avatar

Very sad that any child should die in this age when we know that the measles vaccine is safe and effective. Thanks Dr. Offit for standing up for the truth!

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Mike S's avatar

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/209448

"A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus. Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively."

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rombios's avatar

Dear audience scroll to the bottom to see the conflict of interest between GAVI (vaccine pushers) and the CDC in reporting massaging reported illness VS mortality (which is the only thing we care about)

Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.

Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.

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Mike S's avatar

Who do YOU want to collate the data, Rombios?

When your conspiracy-driven delusions make you distrust every bit of scientific data produced by health agencies, the WHO, research organisations, academic centres and published research, who do you turn to for the evidence?

...The guy who empties your litter bins every Thursday?

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BillyJoe's avatar

Thanks, Mike, for castrating this antivax lunatic. You are helping to save the lives of the children that he is trying his best to kill.

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rombios's avatar

>Thanks, Mike, for castrating this antivax lunatic.

https://i.postimg.cc/4dBrf6k1/antivaccine-slur.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dt7zFZW8/251.jpg

YAWNNNNN. just a kind reminder that it no longer has the sting you think it does

>You are helping to save the lives of the children that he is trying his best to kill.

I am a parent you idiotic simpleton. My children are UNVACCINATED for anything.

No one with brain cells would buy that statement you just made above. Your side of geocentrics are the ones canceling, censoring, threatening doctors, preventing new independent studies.

A multi year vax vs unvax study would put this issue to bed. But you geocentrics are completely against that

But I am the child killer

LOLLL

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Mike S's avatar

Yes, the CDC produced the data. They are the agency which collates all the incidence and mortality data for infectious diseases in the US.

Who do you expect to have done this work...the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration?

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rombios's avatar

>Yes, the CDC produced the data. They are the agency which collates all the incidence and mortality data for infectious diseases in the US.

the same CDC whose head (Dr Julie Goerberding) left after 10 years to work at Merck?

the same CDC whose head (Dr Brenda Fitzgerald) resigned over financial conflicts of interest including holding pharm-stock options and purchasing them while head of the CDC ?

Are you insane? Who are you fooling?

>Who do you expect to have dome this work

An INDEPENDENT unbiased group UNAFFILIATED with pharmaceutical interests of the compromised three letter public health agencies

Not a group (CDC) that pays for the results THEY WANT (for their phama clients) massages the data, then interprets it to fit their agenda

p.s: youll NEVER win this debate. NEVER!!! not while such facts as I pointed out above exist

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Mike S's avatar

Who do YOU want to collate the data, Rombios?

When your conspiracy-driven delusions make you distrust every bit of scientific data produced by health agencies, the WHO, research organisations, academic centres and published research, who do you turn to for the evidence?

...The guy who empties your litter bins every Thursday?

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Its called FRAUD

the same CDC whose head (Dr Julie Goerberding) left after 10 years to work at Merck?

the same CDC whose head (Dr Brenda Fitzgerald) resigned over financial conflicts of interest including holding pharm-stock options and purchasing them while head of the CDC ?

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Albus's avatar

Yes, all you have is fraud.

Thanks for continuing to prove how stupid the anti-vacc liars are.

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rombios's avatar

https://i.postimg.cc/4dBrf6k1/antivaccine-slur.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dt7zFZW8/251.jpg

YAWNNNNN. just a kind reminder that it no longer has the sting you think it does

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Mike S's avatar

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/209448

"A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus. Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively."

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rombios's avatar

Please note that the study takes place well after vaccines were introduced.

Also,

Dear audience scroll to the bottom to see the conflict of interest between GAVI (vaccine pushers) and the CDC in reporting massaging reported illness VS mortality (which is the only thing we care about)

Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.

Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.

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Albus's avatar

Hey, what happens when modern countries stop using a vaccine?

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Mike S's avatar

I wonder what contorted “reasoning” the antivaxers will come up with this time to pretend that “this was not a measles death”?

…Doctors killed them by putting them on a ventilator?

…Doctors killed them by NOT putting them on a ventilator?

…Doctors killed them because they gave antibiotics with the letter X in the name?

….Doctors killed them because they DIDN’T give antibiotics with the letter X in the name?

We shall see…🤔

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BillyJoe's avatar

F.O.with your vile links to the sewer mind of Malone

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Angelina L Woo's avatar

Apologize ???????

He should be indicted for WILLFUL ENDANGERMENT OF A CHILD !

Bet you he was vaccinated. His mother had more sense.

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rombios's avatar

the mental gymnastics you are doing here is top tier.

the first child did not die of measles she died of pneumonia due to hospital intervention. all her siblings got measles and passed through it in a few days just like she did

https://rumble.com/v6r5b5o-chd-interview-with-the-parents-of-texas-measles-girl-who-died-of-pneumonia-.html

In time it will be discovered that the second child died of hospital intervention as well. I suspect the hospitals are bending their rules - WILL FULLY killing children to keep this issue on the news and to further their agenda

Also see this

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

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Albus's avatar

"the first child did not die of measles she died of pneumonia due to hospital intervention"

So make the claim in Court, under oath.

But you won't, because you are lying!

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rombios's avatar

Dear audience scroll to the bottom to see the conflict of interest between GAVI (vaccine pushers) and the CDC in reporting massaging reported illness VS mortality (which is the only thing we care about)

Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.

Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.

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Albus's avatar

Note: rombios objects to people acting ethically.

But continues to support people that act unethically.

Yup, the anti-vaccs are that stupid.

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Mike S's avatar

Yes, the CDC produced the data. They are the agency which collates all the incidence and mortality data for infectious diseases in the US.

Who do you expect to have done this work...the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration?

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Angelina L Woo's avatar

You are an idiot. Measles necessitated medical intervention IN HER CASE. Her siblings different biospheres and , in the case of measles, did not require intervention. Guess what , slugger.

No disease is completely restricted to the target tissue or to the symptomatic expression, such as the rash. Her pneumonia was an expression of her body’s inability to handle the measles’s virus effectively. Also her viral count may have been much higher than her siblings. I had measle, mumps and chickenpox as an elementary student. My kids and grandkids got vaccinated. I have had viral pneumonia at least 7 times before getting the recommended vaccines for pneumonia. No mental gymnastics here- just experience,

education , reasoning. Give them a try.

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Albus's avatar

Yes, we know you can't read word, or a graph, or count.

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Mike S's avatar

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/209448

"A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus. Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively."

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Angelina L Woo's avatar

As usual. No intelligent response.

Any verifiable data . Just bullshit.

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rombios's avatar

Uncomfortable and Inconvenient truths are suddenly "bullshit"

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Albus's avatar

I find your stupidity very convenient and refer your postings to many vaccine hesitant parents.

Most think you work for Merck and are trying to make the anti-vaccs look at morons to improve vaccine sales.

But I have your back. I assure them that you are EXACTLY that stupid!

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Gerridoc's avatar

It’s extremely painful for me to think about a child dying from a preventable disease.

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rombios's avatar

https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/chronic-illness-chart.png

Its extremely painful for me to think that you do not know that 98% of mortality rates to childhood illnesses had decreased before vaccines were introduced.

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-whooping-cough-vaccine-20190316-story.html

Its also extremely painful for me to think that you do not know that vaccinated children still contract and transmit the very illnesses they were vaccinated against

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Albus's avatar

Poor rombios.......still can't count or understand big words like "newspaper"......

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rombios's avatar

Dear audience scroll to the bottom to see the conflict of interest between GAVI (vaccine pushers) and the CDC in reporting massaging reported illness VS mortality (which is the only thing we care about)

Funding/Support: The authors were employees of the US federal government (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]) when this work was conducted and prepared for publication. No funding/support was received from other sources.

Role of the Sponsor: The CDC was responsible for the design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis, and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, and approval of the manuscript.

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Mike S's avatar

Yes, the CDC produced the data. They are the agency which collates all the incidence and mortality data for infectious diseases in the US.

Who do you expect to have dome this work...the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration?

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rombios's avatar

>Yes, the CDC produced the data. They are the agency which collates all the incidence and mortality data for infectious diseases in the US.

the same CDC whose head (Dr Julie Goerberding) left after 10 years to work at Merck?

the same CDC whose head (Dr Brenda Fitzgerald) resigned over financial conflicts of interest including holding pharm-stock options and purchasing them while head of the CDC ?

Are you insane? Who are you fooling?

>Who do you expect to have dome this work

An INDEPENDENT unbiased group UNAFFILIATED with pharmaceutical interests of the compromised three letter public health agencies

Not a group (CDC) that pays for the results THEY WANT (for their phama clients) massages the data, then interprets it to fit their agenda

p.s: youll NEVER win this debate. NEVER!!! not while such facts as I pointed out above exist

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Mike S's avatar

Who do YOU want to collate the data, Rombios?

When your conspiracy-driven delusions make you distrust every bit of scientific data produced by health agencies, the WHO, research organisations, academic centres and published research, who do you turn to for the evidence?

...The guy who empties your litter bins every Thursday?

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J K's avatar

Lol. Only an extraordinary cretin is ok with using dangeourous toxins and diseased animal puss to achive imaginary goal of better health. Whether injected or orally. Btw, flu vax is still injected, with a "healthy" dose of formaldehyde and mercury, and some foreign proteins- which humans should never be injected with- but again, this is not something you would know and plenty of other filth. Yeah, you have a lot to learn, but I doubt you will because critical, independent thinking is not appreciated in your circles.

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Albus's avatar

Anti-vacc 101

Not smart enough to use a dictionary.

And don't have the integrity to correct your errors!

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J K's avatar

Do you really think I care what a imbecile like you have to say? Go get another booster, I know you want it.

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Albus's avatar

Nope.

But as I have posted before.......

I am active with vaccine hesitant families, and your postings are doing a great job in convincing them that the anti-vaccs are stupid and evil.

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J K's avatar

Why don't you want it? According to your gods, the immunity ends at about 3- 6 months! You should be now on like 12th booster!! You're not an antivaxxer ? Do you?? Do you!??

You're " active" ? What does that mean? You pretend to share their opinion on some forum only to steer them towards poisoning their children, you disgusting paid snake salesman? Once they watch countless videos of children horribly injured right after " vaccination" on Rumble or countless other places, I know they will spit on your propaganda.

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Aldous Blackwolf's avatar

I call Cap.

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Albus's avatar

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toxin

As usual, the anti-vaccs prove unable to get basic words correct.

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