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Kent Anderson's avatar

We call it "gaslight science," because that's the intent — to gaslight the public. Also, they use "gaslight" journals and "gaslight" preprints to create "gaslight" citation networks.

BDBinc's avatar

I prefer " $cience" (which denotes its central banking dogma) aka taxpayer funded Rockerfeller's big Pharma etc

Mike S's avatar

I prefer “p$eudo-$cience”, which is what RFK and his gang of clownish goons are pumping out.

Ben Prickril's avatar

Jr’s mind is awash with pseudoscienze and it shows. Even back in the days when his only gig was attacking vaccines, his ignorance was on clear display. Unfortunately for US science he has huge support from like-minded Government officials brought in by an administration that considers fact-based science a threat. The only way out of this mess is to dump this unqualified and undignified President and elect someone with integrity. I don’t see another way.

June  Kahn's avatar

Bravo, Ben! Thanks.

BDBinc's avatar

Kennedys are Rockefeller's media front men leading through controlled opposition(" anti") movements.

Jacobs-Meadway Roberta's avatar

The sycophantic useless members of the GOP Senate are responsible for this conspiracy spouting ignoramus being in a position to make America sicker than need be. Some of them knew better but rolled over on their backs rather than offend their Boss.

June  Kahn's avatar

Like cockroaches do when they die!

Davis Garner's avatar

JFK Jr aside, these are good points to have when talking with people who are vaccine skeptics or nervous about mRNA technology (but otherwise normal people who aren't actively trying to eliminate vaccines in the US). Even if someone cites an incorrect study or misconstrues a biological concept, it can be a struggle to have the right response if you aren't thinking about this all the time. This is coming from an immunologist who worked at the NIH during the pandemic!

June  Kahn's avatar

Thank you, Mr. Garner!

Baya Lazz's avatar

It's a struggle because "vaccines" are a nonsensical ideology and you have to be heavily brainwashed to believe any response you might attempt. For example labels such as smallpox and measles have been changed over the years so you could look at a graph with a single label where actually one end had a different definition from the other end and along the way there were several other transitional definitions. You would have to know a fair amount so as not to be befuddled by ideologue "who worked at the "cult headquarters "during the" atrocity!

https://odysee.com/@dharmabear:2/The-Truth-About-Smallpox-Kate-Sugak-720-Eng:e

BillyJoe's avatar

To Lazy Bazza:

Congratulations!

You are the first antivaxxer to display your science illiteracy and bullshittery. Your prize would have been a kick in the head but you are already too brain damaged to bother about.

To everyone else:

Kate Sugak is a crank and virus denier and has written numerous articles in conjunction with other cranks and virus deniers such as Thomas Cowan, Amandha Vollmer, Andrew Kaufman, and Stefan Lanka, and Mark Bailey.

TALK ABOUT A FRIGGING CULT!

Bill Is Here's avatar

Ever taken a science course? Lots of bench experience? Mmmm. I thought not.

Baya Lazz's avatar

You sound like you have a severe case of Quackpox. Why haven't you been keeping up with your boosters? It's not just about you. Other people could get infected. Do the right thing and get in your gut glow apple rice .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP9cjhTAVzk

Bill Is Here's avatar

Yep, I'm old guy, so coVID is a risk. And I was a microbiologist who did research on vaccines, so I actually know stuff.

To my question - have you taken a college level science course? do you have bench experience?

A.j.'s avatar

Thank you for laying out in a very consise fashion, rfk lies!

Please keep up the good work.

You are appreciated!!

Susan's avatar

Thanks once again Dr Offit for putting the truth out there.

Carol Moore's avatar

Thank you. Really appreciated this explanation of what he is really up to and how totally incompetent he is for this position.

June  Kahn's avatar

I just wander what rfk's "end game" is. Trying to kill off Americans so fewer people are here to vote against the orange blob NEXT election??

Howard Cash's avatar

AI overview: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been involved in litigation related to vaccines and has earned money from legal work, according to CBS News.

More specifically:

He previously had a consulting arrangement with the law firm Wisner Baum to refer cases, including those related to the HPV vaccine Gardasil.

He reported receiving $856,559 in referral fees from this law firm, according to NPR.

He also previously declared an $8,848,402 share of partnership profits from another law firm, Kennedy and Madonna, LLP, NPR reports.

While initially intending to keep a financial stake in lawsuits against Merck even if confirmed as HHS secretary, he later stated he would relinquish those fees if confirmed, says ABC News.

However, during a confirmation hearing, he appeared to backtrack on that commitment, according to U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren (.gov).

In addition to this, Kennedy has been associated with and previously chaired Children's Health Defense (CHD), a nonprofit organization that has filed numerous lawsuits challenging vaccines and public health mandates. While Kennedy is listed as a lawyer on some of these cases, and the organization has received attention through its litigation, it has lost many of them, NPR reports.

Trump Dick Sucker's avatar

Nice work! He's been seven figure compensated by CHD also. Read this at ProPublica, or somewhere similar.

And several of his books have been bestsellers - actual bestsellers - not magaworld bulk purchasing. So he's well into seven figures there AND he He expects to receive up to $4 million in advances for two forthcoming titles: 'Unsettled Science' and 'A Defense for Israel' an his worth has more than doubled over the last three years (to a meager $30M), according to public ethics disclosures, which just seemed to disappear from: https://extapps2.oge.gov/201/Presiden.nsf/PAS+Index/A56222F259495B0D85258C1A00565073/$FILE/Kennedy%2C%20Jr.%2C%20Robert%20F.%20%20final278.pdf

Meanwhile, he rails against the corrupted "establishment," ACIP members, etc. But his biggest payoffs are the power, attention and adulation.

BillyJoe's avatar

I see you followed the money as well.

It's not too hard to see what his end game is.

Trump Dick Sucker's avatar

My opinion - I think it's more the power and savior thing, but the money is nice. He's OG Kennedy and was only worth about $15M a few years ago. He would have had much more money if he had just been a chill Kennedy, philanthropizing, or whatever they do - I think. Making up for a slow start now.

BillyJoe's avatar

I see you followed the money.

That's what this arsehole is about.

Mike S's avatar

And while plaintiffs win or lose, the lawyers always win!

BillyJoe's avatar

Follow the money.

Ben Prickril's avatar

Unfortunately June, the viruses Jr. is failing to fight are equal opportunity assassins that refuse to choose political sides.

Carol Moore's avatar

Think you need to see what companies he’s invested in and the money trail of how much they have paid him.

Paul Snyder's avatar

RFKJ and Gabbard are the most obvious members of the Trump admin installed out of fealty to Russia. RFKJ would not exist as a populist entity without the support of Russian trolls, bots, and cash via circuitous routes. Public Health degradation has always been one of Putin’s tools. Article provides an overview of how PH tools are used:

(Ironically from the “Kennedy School”… It was a different “Kennedy” and a different time, of course)

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/clarity-for-friends-confusion-for-foes-russian-vaccine-propaganda-in-ukraine-and-serbia/

Liz Martin's avatar

RFK-jr is pure Evil. A deceptive deranged derelict sadistic Heroin addict who derives pleasure from causing human beings to suffer and die. The more he can kill, the better. Carving up roadkill and strapping dead animals to his car. Caroline Kennedy WARNED how evil he is. RFK-jr intentionally got his much younger cousins addicted to Heroin and then when they were hooked in his basement he DENIED them a Fix and enjoyed watching them all suffer from agonozing withdrawal. He will kill multiple millions of people mostly children and elderly. And profit from FAKE lawsuits of grieving parents and families.

Coprophilic Wellness's avatar

The February MMWR paper and March presentation Dr. Offit links to show Bobby doesn't seem to have quashed reality completely - Yet.

Not quite as dramatically as orange's Bureau of Labor Statistics Stalinist firing.and appointment of a cartoon character from Heritage that writes for Daily Caller and Breitbart.

June  Kahn's avatar

Yep! Sounds similar.

Carol's avatar

thorough debunking of bobby's falsehoods

José Torres MD (Pulmonologist)'s avatar

Clear explanation about líes Kennedy.

John Fontaine, Phm's avatar

Refreshing not one negative post...as yet. 👍

Dr. Offit thank you for once again being informative & succinct.

JJF Phm 🇨🇦

BillyJoe's avatar

The antivaxxers always arrive a day late so stay tuned.

John Fontaine, Phm's avatar

I truly respect Dr. Offit's expertise & his clarity when countering false statements, which is what RFK Jr makes. I struggle with emphathy for those posting vitriol.

Those who don't understand for a variety of reasons, can be a challenge when I try to convey the factual science. I don't doubt these individuals love their children & family, however the consequences of adhering to these misunderstandings will have long lasting consequences.

I am very concerned for those who have contracted measles & thankfully recoverrd but now suffer from immune amnesia & are susceptible to a host of infections they previously had immunity for & may remain reluctant to bring vaccinated 😥

Josh Bloom's avatar

Yeah, those stage coaches don't do so well on the interstates.

BillyJoe's avatar

Well, I was wrong, the very next comment was from an antivaxxer! Oh well. :(

onisillos's avatar

The word salad put out by RFK Jr is so nonsensical that it feels like he still hasn't weaned himself off ChatGPT.

Coprophilic Wellness's avatar

It's not all word salad. Sometimes succinct contentions - false ones - several corrected in this essay.

sania wilkins's avatar

Oh doc. What a sad state of affairs. I’m going to use that gulliver travels quote. Non medical folks should not run medical offices with “scienze”. I do worry about you! I hope you are getting a weekly massage!!!!🙂🍷

Josh Bloom's avatar

Paul

There couldn’t be a better set of rebuttals than those you just gave us. I even learned a few new things. But I suspect that you might as well have this discussion with a waffle iron as a Kennedy follower. Nonetheless, please keep up the great work. It is needed more than ever.

Bill is Here's avatar

Love the "waffle iron"...

S Brahnshaw's avatar

I can think of nothing positive nor healthy Bobbie Jr could contribute to our America's public health. The science community needs to come down hard on his personal lies and fraudulent practices.