Regular citizen here. A small business owner. Please keep us updated on what we need to do. I am a caretaker to an immune compromised individual. These are sad and dark times and I worry for her. I appreciate all of you in medicine and science and it saddens me greatly because of how you all have been treated. The worst is some in healthcare have fallen for lies and conspiracies. Thank you for all you do.
he actually is a very successful lawyer in addition to being a Kennedy. He is the reason why many of our waterways are kept clean (Waterkeepers Alliance) -
And now he is an apologist for and collaborator with an environmental vandal who is gutting regulations protecting our air, food supply, and WATER. He uses causes to elevate himself and apparently readily abandons them when he sees a new opportunity. He and Trump were made for each other.
Successful only in that he has blatantly milked the family name to eke out a vestige of credibility, and successful in that his antivax claims have pulled him in millions of dollars a year.
Seriously? A scion of one of the most privileged and storied families in the nation’s history. He flouts the law, depending on the protection his family and wealth provides him, is an adulterer, and an outright liar (proven with, you know, FACTS, many times over) and HE’S been treated unfairly??? Come on now! There is the real world and MAGA/MAHA world where everything is viewed through a fun house mirror. Join the real world.
The most unqualified and deadly administration. He’s not medical. He doesn’t know how to interpret research studies. He struggled with heroin addiction for 14 years and claimed a worm ate his brain.
i’m not really sure how you can come to that conclusion after listening to him or after reading his book “Vax Facts”. Do you have children? Just read an article by Medpage Today and a quote from Offit regarding the covid shot “This paper provides even more data that we should focus on those at highest risk. It’s not saying don’t vaccinate children. It’s saying don’t boost healthy children who don’t fit into high risk groups .
Remind you that the past 4 years they have told you your child needs every booster.
then you obviously have not listened to any of their podcasts by pediatricians nor Suzanne Humphries (a neonotogist) You can listen to her on the Joe Rogan podcast
Have you actually listened to any of the podcasts on the Children’s Health Defense website or read any of the articles? Many Pediatric nurses and doctors that I have listened to with valuable information. One podcast is by Dr. Paul Thomas - he does the podcast “Pediatric Perspectives”.
Nope and I don’t ever plan on letting these grifters and misinformation fill my head. I don’t know a single reputable Neonatologist or Pediatrician who is anti-vaxx and would be on that website getting information. For the nurses who are anti-vaxx unfortunately they fell victim to the misinformation and went down the rabbit hole.
Why would you believe that all of the medical professionals in this country and around the world are “in on it” and not only willing to “poison” themselves but also their children? In my experience, the anti-vaxx don’t want to give vaccines but they will do anything and everything to save their loved ones when it comes to it. Why trust the providers then and not when it comes to recommending vaccines?
Why not trust your pediatric providers with regard to vaccines when you trust them with other life saving measures? Assuming you actually want an answer, it's because vaccines may be lifesaving, but the most likely outcome from not giving your child vaccinations is that nothing will happen. The second most likely outcome is that your child might get ill with measles, tetanus or some other disease but recover without any lasting problems. Yes, worse outcomes are possible, but most likely nothing will happen. BTW, the same can be said regarding getting them all the recommended vaccines. Compare these possible outcomes with being in a situation where your child is in pain and distress and you are actively seeking help for a specific problem. Is any wonder that parents are far less likely to disregard their pediatricians recommendations for a problem parents are actively seeking advice about versus general lifestyle recommendations like diet, exercise, vaccines and screen time?
I do this for a living. I see children and neonates fight for their lives because their parents didn’t vaccinate them. They are in pain when they are admitted to the hospital and struggling to breathe. Let’s not say they get said illness and nothing happens. That’s being entirely naive. You think the parents feeling guilty for not vaccinating and being the cause of their child suffering will take to the internet to share their story? Like the newborns admitted for LVKD with massive brain bleeds. Their once babbling smiling child now seizing.
we can also flip that coin - when pediatricians have told parents the need to vaccinate their children, that it is 100 percent safe and effective and then their children was never the same again. have you seen any of the documentaries “Vaxxed”? Vaxxed 2”? Protocol 7?
No, it's not entirely naive. You are seeing those individuals who took a particular risk and lost. That happens. You don't see the far greater number who took the risk and won because they don't have to deal with that situation.
Would you like to discuss the actual numbers? Even with the large number of measles cases we have in the U.S. this year, the vast majority of unvaccinated people will not get measles. The vast majority of those that do contract measles, whether vaccinated or not, will recover without any lasting problems as a result.
You are talking about children’s lives what do you mean took the risk and lost. Must be nice to sit behind a keyboard and think it’s only a small amount of children that suffer from anti-science-anti-vaccine beliefs.
The vast majority of unvaccinated are getting measles versus the few break through cases. Not just here in the U.S.
In the last 20 years, more children were vaccinated than the last few years. How would you know that they will recover without lasting problems? I mean you all scream about childhood chronic diseases. Where are the actual numbers you are looking at without sending me to some quack website or telling me to watch some Netflix anti-vaccine documentary.
I picked one "Dr Paul" podcast at random and listened to a bit of it. The one with Dr Stoller, who just talked complete garbage about thimerosal. He was saying that the reason thimerosal used to be in "Preparation H" was not that it was a preservative, but that it was designed to destroy the nerves so you would not get any pain from your haemorrhoids! This is pure BS. The ethyl mercury in preparation H was in such a low dose it could noyt have possibly had this side effect anyway.
Paul Thomas is a liar and a crank. He produces fake data under the guise of "research".
He may have a bedside manner you like, or tell you things you like to hear, but most of what he says is sheer nonsense or distorted fact.
He promotes the idea of natural immunity as being superior to vaccine induced immunity. Tell me, do you want your child to get immunity to meningococcal meningitis (death rate 30%) through acuiring it naturally, or by getting a vaccine?
One of his patients who had remained unvaccinated caught tetanus, and spent weeks in ITU while they saved his life and helped him recover. Now, tetanus infection doesn't confer immunity to tetanus, so he remains as vulnerable now as he was before. His deluded parents still refuse to let him get a tetanus vaccine (which would confer immunity).
You do subscribe to Children's Health Defense right? You have children? He founded that organization. Go have a look at the articles and/or listen to one of their podcasts and see for yourself.
I have children and I’m also a pediatric provider and there’s no way I would believe anything from this guy or his antivaxx organization. He makes money on vaccine lawsuits, talk about conflict of interest.
And where are Malone, Prasad, Makary and Battacharya - RFK's physician experts on this issue? Why haven't they spoken up? Their silence is deafening. It's one thing for a lawyer not to understand medical research but he has multiple physicians reporting to him who are supposedly highly credential academic physicians. They are complicit in what is, in essence, a genocide of the world's poorest children, through a willful act of omission, withdrawing vaccination. If I were on RFK's team, I'd be shouting from the rooftop and resign in protest. Where is the media? Why haven't they asked Malone et al for their input?
They're too busy writing junk articles for NEJM. They're small men with ego problems and only want attention. They've prostituted themselves out for popularity and have completely thrown science and medicine in the trash.
Damn...only THREE of the past 20 (!) Secretaries of DHHS have been physicians.
You don't seem to understand that Big Pharma has placed MANY of their shills into positions at DHHS, NIH, CDC, and the FDA. He HAS to fire them because they are not working for science; they are working for Big Pharma.
Would you want lobbyists for Big Tobacco in the FDA or NIH? Yeah, neither do I.
So how do we go about charging him with crimes against humanity? This is an appalling decision, which clearly evidences his bias against sound scientific 🧪 research! As another has hinted, this borders on Hitleresque eugenics!
you should subscribe or at least check out the organization that he founded called children's health defense and read a few of the articles there and listen to the podcasts and then decide if it/he is inhumane
Little Bo-Peep assumes that everyone is as uniformed as she is.
The sewer known as the Children's Health Destruction is the avenue through which RFK junior has established his fame and fortune among the ignorant and at the expense of the lives and health of their children.
It is very sad to see mothers supporting this child killer.
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA – A large tertiary care center in Sydney, Australia is pulling out all the stops to try and cut their expenses. As of next month, all doctors and nurses currently on staff will be replaced by parents who have done research on the Internet.
The hospital is excited about how much money this move should save them, not to mention the overwhelming support from parents everywhere.
“This is a great move in my opinion,” said antivaxxer Meryl Dorey. “Most parents know more than doctors anyways, so this is a huge step in the right direction.”
Fake doctors are also supportive of the decision and are hoping to be given consideration for available positions: “I have two internet doctorates and know far more about how to heal people than any medical doctor,” said “Doctor” Dante Seers. “I would love to go into more detail but it will cost you $1495.”
This administration is opposed to foreign aid and aid for poor people. So whatever RFK Jr. thinks of vaccines be aware what his boss and the folks at Heritage want.
Thank you for your decades of greatly appreciated, life-saving service. This Nazi regime is rotting, and coming closer to collapse each day. I pray for its rapid demise, and a quick return to sanity.
I really don't think so - quite opposite . Society is waking up to the fact of big pharma and controlling the narrative, they are questioning everything as they should. Thank goodness he is HHS :))
Trump’s silence makes him complicit in the outcomes. He bears full responsibility. Can you imagine the wives of these two not advocating for the children?
Of course he will go that route here. If he believes DPT is deadly in other countries, why would he not believe it is deadly here? And as far as parents/doctors having a “choice”, that quickly fails the common sense test as well. Why would he allow doctors/parents to administer what he believes is a harmful medication?
Exactly. And that is not happening. And we are getting more and more desensitized by the day. The organizations need to speak up. They are supposed to exist to act as our advocates.
everyone should have a choice to receive a vaccine (as his words). as long as they receive proper informed consent and that the vaccine has gone through the proper clinical trials (most childhood vaccines have never been tested against a placebo)
Absolutely false. Every single vaccine has been appropriately tested. It would be unbelievably unethical to do a placebo trial on a new vaccine when the one it is replacing was proven effective against a placebo. To do a placebo trial on the new version would involve putting the control group of the trial at risk. That cannot and will not happen. Medical ethics 101.
And everyone already does have the right to opt out. Although it is certainly arguable that they should be allowed to do so. The children are not the ones making an uninformed decision. It is the parents. Do you feel parents have the right to do whatever they want with children? Beat them? Keep them out of school? Because it’s “their bodies”?
The people opting out I believe are those that have done the proper research. They are making sure they are receiving the proper informed consent before giving their child any medical intervention. As you can see in the CDC's own VAERS data no vaccine is 100 percent safe .
Again, absolutely false. “Proper research” is not doing google searches or listening to whatever is bouncing around inside of social media echo chambers. And you are completely misunderstanding what VAERS data represents.
Straw man....nobody ever claimed vaccines were 100% safe. All medical drugs and interventions have side effects. The relevant facts are that serious side effects are very rare, and when a benefit/harm analysis is done, you will find that the benefits hugely outweigh the harms.
What have you got against children that you want them to get ill and die from diseases?
It's written by clueless nongs who have never conducted a single clinical trial in their entire lives for clueless nongs like you, who won't notice it was written by clueless nongs like the clueless nongs who live in RFK junior's septic tank, the Children's Health Destruction.
I have. It's poorly written. Rather than looking at the science, you only get to hear about the scence they cherry pick, and deliberately misrepresent. And even when they find some genuine vaccine side effect to discuss, this is never compared to the couterfactual...how many lives the vaccines save or improve.
Regular citizen here. A small business owner. Please keep us updated on what we need to do. I am a caretaker to an immune compromised individual. These are sad and dark times and I worry for her. I appreciate all of you in medicine and science and it saddens me greatly because of how you all have been treated. The worst is some in healthcare have fallen for lies and conspiracies. Thank you for all you do.
he actually is a very successful lawyer in addition to being a Kennedy. He is the reason why many of our waterways are kept clean (Waterkeepers Alliance) -
And now he is an apologist for and collaborator with an environmental vandal who is gutting regulations protecting our air, food supply, and WATER. He uses causes to elevate himself and apparently readily abandons them when he sees a new opportunity. He and Trump were made for each other.
Successful only in that he has blatantly milked the family name to eke out a vestige of credibility, and successful in that his antivax claims have pulled him in millions of dollars a year.
Objectively he isn’t a particularly good lawyer.
Did you by chance read today’s Substack article by “A Midwestern Doctor” and the JAMA study that just came out?
You'te an anti-vaccine bot. You drop one-liners like this, and restack crazy anti-vaccine nonsense.
You do realize how unfairly and sadly RFK Jr. has been treated as well right?
Seriously? A scion of one of the most privileged and storied families in the nation’s history. He flouts the law, depending on the protection his family and wealth provides him, is an adulterer, and an outright liar (proven with, you know, FACTS, many times over) and HE’S been treated unfairly??? Come on now! There is the real world and MAGA/MAHA world where everything is viewed through a fun house mirror. Join the real world.
You are a laugh a minute Little Bo-Peep.
Your rabbit hole leads to a sewer.
RFK junior is leading your there.
lol
Next time, look after your sheep.
What is wrong with you?🙄
The most unqualified and deadly administration. He’s not medical. He doesn’t know how to interpret research studies. He struggled with heroin addiction for 14 years and claimed a worm ate his brain.
Maybe a worm did eat his brain. It might explain a lot!
i’m not really sure how you can come to that conclusion after listening to him or after reading his book “Vax Facts”. Do you have children? Just read an article by Medpage Today and a quote from Offit regarding the covid shot “This paper provides even more data that we should focus on those at highest risk. It’s not saying don’t vaccinate children. It’s saying don’t boost healthy children who don’t fit into high risk groups .
Remind you that the past 4 years they have told you your child needs every booster.
then you obviously have not listened to any of their podcasts by pediatricians nor Suzanne Humphries (a neonotogist) You can listen to her on the Joe Rogan podcast
Have you actually listened to any of the podcasts on the Children’s Health Defense website or read any of the articles? Many Pediatric nurses and doctors that I have listened to with valuable information. One podcast is by Dr. Paul Thomas - he does the podcast “Pediatric Perspectives”.
Nope and I don’t ever plan on letting these grifters and misinformation fill my head. I don’t know a single reputable Neonatologist or Pediatrician who is anti-vaxx and would be on that website getting information. For the nurses who are anti-vaxx unfortunately they fell victim to the misinformation and went down the rabbit hole.
Why would you believe that all of the medical professionals in this country and around the world are “in on it” and not only willing to “poison” themselves but also their children? In my experience, the anti-vaxx don’t want to give vaccines but they will do anything and everything to save their loved ones when it comes to it. Why trust the providers then and not when it comes to recommending vaccines?
Why not trust your pediatric providers with regard to vaccines when you trust them with other life saving measures? Assuming you actually want an answer, it's because vaccines may be lifesaving, but the most likely outcome from not giving your child vaccinations is that nothing will happen. The second most likely outcome is that your child might get ill with measles, tetanus or some other disease but recover without any lasting problems. Yes, worse outcomes are possible, but most likely nothing will happen. BTW, the same can be said regarding getting them all the recommended vaccines. Compare these possible outcomes with being in a situation where your child is in pain and distress and you are actively seeking help for a specific problem. Is any wonder that parents are far less likely to disregard their pediatricians recommendations for a problem parents are actively seeking advice about versus general lifestyle recommendations like diet, exercise, vaccines and screen time?
I do this for a living. I see children and neonates fight for their lives because their parents didn’t vaccinate them. They are in pain when they are admitted to the hospital and struggling to breathe. Let’s not say they get said illness and nothing happens. That’s being entirely naive. You think the parents feeling guilty for not vaccinating and being the cause of their child suffering will take to the internet to share their story? Like the newborns admitted for LVKD with massive brain bleeds. Their once babbling smiling child now seizing.
we can also flip that coin - when pediatricians have told parents the need to vaccinate their children, that it is 100 percent safe and effective and then their children was never the same again. have you seen any of the documentaries “Vaxxed”? Vaxxed 2”? Protocol 7?
No, it's not entirely naive. You are seeing those individuals who took a particular risk and lost. That happens. You don't see the far greater number who took the risk and won because they don't have to deal with that situation.
Would you like to discuss the actual numbers? Even with the large number of measles cases we have in the U.S. this year, the vast majority of unvaccinated people will not get measles. The vast majority of those that do contract measles, whether vaccinated or not, will recover without any lasting problems as a result.
You are talking about children’s lives what do you mean took the risk and lost. Must be nice to sit behind a keyboard and think it’s only a small amount of children that suffer from anti-science-anti-vaccine beliefs.
The vast majority of unvaccinated are getting measles versus the few break through cases. Not just here in the U.S.
In the last 20 years, more children were vaccinated than the last few years. How would you know that they will recover without lasting problems? I mean you all scream about childhood chronic diseases. Where are the actual numbers you are looking at without sending me to some quack website or telling me to watch some Netflix anti-vaccine documentary.
I picked one "Dr Paul" podcast at random and listened to a bit of it. The one with Dr Stoller, who just talked complete garbage about thimerosal. He was saying that the reason thimerosal used to be in "Preparation H" was not that it was a preservative, but that it was designed to destroy the nerves so you would not get any pain from your haemorrhoids! This is pure BS. The ethyl mercury in preparation H was in such a low dose it could noyt have possibly had this side effect anyway.
Paul Thomas is a liar and a crank. He produces fake data under the guise of "research".
He may have a bedside manner you like, or tell you things you like to hear, but most of what he says is sheer nonsense or distorted fact.
He promotes the idea of natural immunity as being superior to vaccine induced immunity. Tell me, do you want your child to get immunity to meningococcal meningitis (death rate 30%) through acuiring it naturally, or by getting a vaccine?
One of his patients who had remained unvaccinated caught tetanus, and spent weeks in ITU while they saved his life and helped him recover. Now, tetanus infection doesn't confer immunity to tetanus, so he remains as vulnerable now as he was before. His deluded parents still refuse to let him get a tetanus vaccine (which would confer immunity).
You do subscribe to Children's Health Defense right? You have children? He founded that organization. Go have a look at the articles and/or listen to one of their podcasts and see for yourself.
I have children and I’m also a pediatric provider and there’s no way I would believe anything from this guy or his antivaxx organization. He makes money on vaccine lawsuits, talk about conflict of interest.
I believe we have a bot here.
Repetitive and boring as hell.
Can't even get the name right:
CHILDREN'S HEALTH DESTRUCTION.
And where are Malone, Prasad, Makary and Battacharya - RFK's physician experts on this issue? Why haven't they spoken up? Their silence is deafening. It's one thing for a lawyer not to understand medical research but he has multiple physicians reporting to him who are supposedly highly credential academic physicians. They are complicit in what is, in essence, a genocide of the world's poorest children, through a willful act of omission, withdrawing vaccination. If I were on RFK's team, I'd be shouting from the rooftop and resign in protest. Where is the media? Why haven't they asked Malone et al for their input?
They're too busy writing junk articles for NEJM. They're small men with ego problems and only want attention. They've prostituted themselves out for popularity and have completely thrown science and medicine in the trash.
Do you follow Robert Malone of Substack?
No, absolutely not.
you should.
Why?
...not!
Robert Malone is an inveterate liar.
No wonder you are so misinformed.
can you name a few things that he has lied about -
Everything. Lets start at the beginning. https://open.substack.com/pub/exposed/p/proof-robert-malone-did-not-invent?r=zrmcb&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
How much time have you got?
Here are a few to get started...
https://toolbox.google.com/factcheck/explorer/search/Robert%20Malone;hl=en
These are very interesting. There are lots Google missed. His resume is fascinating.
Most recently, he made the decision to pull DTaP vaccinations from other countries due to an article from 40 years ago.
Damn...only THREE of the past 20 (!) Secretaries of DHHS have been physicians.
You don't seem to understand that Big Pharma has placed MANY of their shills into positions at DHHS, NIH, CDC, and the FDA. He HAS to fire them because they are not working for science; they are working for Big Pharma.
Would you want lobbyists for Big Tobacco in the FDA or NIH? Yeah, neither do I.
This Dull Man has been gaslighted.
And he seems proud of it. Or oblivious!
But what can you expect of someone who thinks you can prevent and cure every disease with WATER.
I KID YOU NOT!
I'm surprised the silly little fv<ker is back after his lashing in the last commentary section.
These are dark times indeed. Thank you for spreading the truth about these things.
Do you happen to subscribe to Children's Health Defense? (do you have children?) incredible articles and podcasts
Incredibly stupid Julie Bo.
So how do we go about charging him with crimes against humanity? This is an appalling decision, which clearly evidences his bias against sound scientific 🧪 research! As another has hinted, this borders on Hitleresque eugenics!
Disease does not understand borders.
Omg, we will be going back to cases of neonatal tetanus, so cruel and wrong.
Thank you for this exposition of an inhumane policy
you should subscribe or at least check out the organization that he founded called children's health defense and read a few of the articles there and listen to the podcasts and then decide if it/he is inhumane
Little Bo-Peep assumes that everyone is as uniformed as she is.
The sewer known as the Children's Health Destruction is the avenue through which RFK junior has established his fame and fortune among the ignorant and at the expense of the lives and health of their children.
It is very sad to see mothers supporting this child killer.
I think Julie is a bot account
I think you are right, and a stupid one
Fixated on promoting the CHD to a science-oriented audience.
Thank you for the recommendation, Julie. I hope you’ll reread my comment. I am I referred to an “inhumane policy,” not an inhumane person.
From "The Science Post":
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA – A large tertiary care center in Sydney, Australia is pulling out all the stops to try and cut their expenses. As of next month, all doctors and nurses currently on staff will be replaced by parents who have done research on the Internet.
The hospital is excited about how much money this move should save them, not to mention the overwhelming support from parents everywhere.
“This is a great move in my opinion,” said antivaxxer Meryl Dorey. “Most parents know more than doctors anyways, so this is a huge step in the right direction.”
Fake doctors are also supportive of the decision and are hoping to be given consideration for available positions: “I have two internet doctorates and know far more about how to heal people than any medical doctor,” said “Doctor” Dante Seers. “I would love to go into more detail but it will cost you $1495.”
Kennedy has to realize he's doing really bad cherry picking. What can be his motive? Is he out to reduce the world's population?
Fame and fortune life all grifters.
Trump has already killed people: “Why Evangelicals Turned Their Back on PEPFAR”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/pepfar-evangelical/683418/
Archived copy: https://archive.ph/CVKVu
Unfortunately, it is paywalled.
The archived version isn’t paywalled.
Surely if what RFK jr is saying then wouldn’t it be apparent in multiple countries other than one country in Africa?
I’m not sure when the triple diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis was introduced in the U.K.
However this paper states that the schedule for the triple vaccine was modified in 1990.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0140673692903362
https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/307/6913/1171.full.pdf from 1993 highlights the very rare occurrence of serious acute neurological illness.
This administration is opposed to foreign aid and aid for poor people. So whatever RFK Jr. thinks of vaccines be aware what his boss and the folks at Heritage want.
Yep, it’s bigger than RFK Jr.
...and the multi-billionaire contributors to The Heritage Foundation.
Thank you for your decades of greatly appreciated, life-saving service. This Nazi regime is rotting, and coming closer to collapse each day. I pray for its rapid demise, and a quick return to sanity.
I really don't think so - quite opposite . Society is waking up to the fact of big pharma and controlling the narrative, they are questioning everything as they should. Thank goodness he is HHS :))
"I really don't think"
Yes, that is rather obvious.
" Thank goodness he is HHS :))"
See what I mean.
No thinking going on in Little Bo-Peep's brain
Trump’s silence makes him complicit in the outcomes. He bears full responsibility. Can you imagine the wives of these two not advocating for the children?
Of course he will go that route here. If he believes DPT is deadly in other countries, why would he not believe it is deadly here? And as far as parents/doctors having a “choice”, that quickly fails the common sense test as well. Why would he allow doctors/parents to administer what he believes is a harmful medication?
WHY IS THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY NOT SPEAKING UP???
Some are, but this has to be a mass movement - doctors and scientists and HCWs.
Exactly. And that is not happening. And we are getting more and more desensitized by the day. The organizations need to speak up. They are supposed to exist to act as our advocates.
I’m really sorry you feel that way
I don’t rely on google searches for sure nor on social media.
You are certainly not relying on expert opinion nor on medical literature.
Though you seem to have swallowed the antivax propaganda website encyclopedia.
everyone should have a choice to receive a vaccine (as his words). as long as they receive proper informed consent and that the vaccine has gone through the proper clinical trials (most childhood vaccines have never been tested against a placebo)
Absolutely false. Every single vaccine has been appropriately tested. It would be unbelievably unethical to do a placebo trial on a new vaccine when the one it is replacing was proven effective against a placebo. To do a placebo trial on the new version would involve putting the control group of the trial at risk. That cannot and will not happen. Medical ethics 101.
And everyone already does have the right to opt out. Although it is certainly arguable that they should be allowed to do so. The children are not the ones making an uninformed decision. It is the parents. Do you feel parents have the right to do whatever they want with children? Beat them? Keep them out of school? Because it’s “their bodies”?
The people opting out I believe are those that have done the proper research. They are making sure they are receiving the proper informed consent before giving their child any medical intervention. As you can see in the CDC's own VAERS data no vaccine is 100 percent safe .
Again, absolutely false. “Proper research” is not doing google searches or listening to whatever is bouncing around inside of social media echo chambers. And you are completely misunderstanding what VAERS data represents.
Straw man....nobody ever claimed vaccines were 100% safe. All medical drugs and interventions have side effects. The relevant facts are that serious side effects are very rare, and when a benefit/harm analysis is done, you will find that the benefits hugely outweigh the harms.
What have you got against children that you want them to get ill and die from diseases?
Another disgraceful lying antivaxxer.
Correction of it's lies:
1) Everyone has a choice.
2) All choices that affect other people have consequences.
3) You should take those consequences into account when making your choice.
4) Proper "Informed Consent" is correct. "Misinformed Refusal" is not.
5) ALL vaccines have been through proper clinical trials.
6) All vaccines have been tested against an appropriate placebo.
Of course, this fruitcake hasn't a clue what constitutes "an appropriate placebo"
wrong - You haven't read "Vax-Unvax Let The Science Speak" yet
It's written by clueless nongs who have never conducted a single clinical trial in their entire lives for clueless nongs like you, who won't notice it was written by clueless nongs like the clueless nongs who live in RFK junior's septic tank, the Children's Health Destruction.
I have. It's poorly written. Rather than looking at the science, you only get to hear about the scence they cherry pick, and deliberately misrepresent. And even when they find some genuine vaccine side effect to discuss, this is never compared to the couterfactual...how many lives the vaccines save or improve.
Every vaccine on the schedule has had appropriate clinical trials, and vaccines are given with informed consent. So what's your problem?