I have pictures of headstones with infants less than a year old😢 A very common site in most cemeteries. Vaccines are the best thing humans have ever created. They've saved countless lives and prevented a lot of suffering.
As Thomas Jefferson recognized 225 years ago. Vaccination is a tremendous benefit to civilization. He also believed in reason and facts. Trump and his fellow travelers dystopian world wants to bring back a world divorced from fact, compromise and reality. Dr. Offit has presented data, they present distortion and lies. The media used to try and balance facts and perspectives. Now they give perspectives based on financial power and preserving their wealth. When virtue is lost no form of governance will overcome the wolves in man’s nature.
That was the reason Victorian and early Edwardian families had so many children here in the U.K., because they didn’t know how many would survive into adolescence or adulthood. When vaccines and antibiotics arrived then infant mortality dropped and so did family sizes (in general, there were exceptions of course).
I'm glad I don't live in America with this nutter in charge of health! The problem is that there may be a decrease in vaccine funding which will affect all of us, not just Americans?
I'm glad I emigrated from the USA to the Philippines in 2015 and still live there. It's a developing country so public health isn't perfect but we do have a distinguished physician as health secretary and some excellent infectious disease docs advising him. The deaths per capita during the Covid pandemic were lower than the USA.
Your death count was lower because you didn’t have Dr. Death Fauchi giving redismir to kill the kidneys, to cause fluids in the lungs & ultimately blow out their lungs. That drug I believe was being tested for aids or something else about 10 years ago. The study was stopped because so many of the animals were dying. And that piece of shit doctor ordered that drug as Covid protocol for the hospitals & killed thousands & thousands of people for no got dam reason other than his got dam God complex. How in the hell is he not in prison??
Actually, remdesivir was part of a trial of 4 different drugs, in the Democratic Republic of Congo, to see which, if any, were able to reduce ebola mortality in human beings, which averages around 50%. In the trial, a couple of the drugs reduced ebola mortality to 33-35%, but remdesivir's fatality rate was 53%. Some critics have used these numbers to say that remdesivir was more dangerous than ebola, but to be fair, there was no placebo control, and ebola mortality varies widely based on the specific strain involved, so that might not be the case. Certainly, however, remdesivir was an absolute disaster in its deployment to Covid patients, almost all of whom were beyond the viral replication phase of the disease by the time they were hospitalized, so it should not have been surprising that remdesivir did nothing but harm to the patients.
You're very welcome. Are you aware of the new documentary film that debuts on Sunday at the Malibu Film Festival (and online), "An Inconvenient Study?" It's about a vaccinated/unvaccinated study done by pro-vaccine doctors and researchers at Henry Ford Health in Detroit. When it showed that unvaccinated children were far healthier, it was shelved, but Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) got a copy of it and leaked it to the public. The film is about not just the study, but the circumstances of it - what precipitated it and the shenanigans around suppressing it. See aninconvenientstudy.com for more info. My apologies if you already know about it.
other countries will take the lead in vaccine development (hi china), an inevitable process that was coming anyway, this just speeds it up just like the dedollarization process is accelerating under this clown show
I am old enough to have measles, mumps, rubella and chickenpox. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. When I broke out with rubella, I missed a field trip that I excited about. The other "childhood diseases," made me sick and miserable. I was very grateful that my children could get the MMR vaccine. Unfortunately, there wasn't a vaccine for chickenpox before they got it.
I'm vaccinated against shingles. My sons and daughter-in-law will need shingles vaccines too. Because the chicken pox virus can reactivate as shingles in older adults.
Your story sounds like mine but I was fortunate enough to have very mild cases of the diseases - my mother’s biggest problem was trying to keep us quiet rather than jumping on the bed.As I recall my younger brother and I had them one right after the other without a return to school for me until it was all done.
I'm the oldest of six. I think there were five of us when the older kids got the mumps first, then the measles. It happened at the end of the school year. We spent June inside. My dad spent his vacation, in the yard, grilling roast, chicken and turkey on the rotisserie. We watched him through the screen door.
I remember being too weak to ride my bike at first. My grandmother noticed that I lost weight. So much for the "good old days."
When my son who is turning 40 next month was in a home daycare - I don’t remember his exact age - the daughter of the daycare mom got chicken pox. One of the other moms wanted her to smear it on her child; she had had it as an adult and said she thought she was going to die.
I am in the U.K. and I had measles, rubella and chickenpox, I don’t think I ever had mumps. My measles and rubella (then known as German Measles) when I was an infant, but didn’t get chickenpox until I was eight. The measles vaccine didn’t arrive here until 1968, some 5 years after the USA.
Unfortunately, the chickenpox vaccine won’t prevent infection with Human Herpes Virus 3 (Zoster), which means that children who are vaccinated against chickenpox will still be vulnerable to shingles later in life. The U.K. are introducing the chickenpox vaccine next year I think. The shingles vaccine is offered to those who are 65 after September 2024 (?), those of us who were 65 before then have to wait until we’re 70.
Are you absolutely sure it was measles and not mumps? The fact is that there isn't actually any way for the quacks to distinguish between them other than the supposed test which didn't exist in those days. It is purely an operation of changing definitions and acting as if that means healthy children. With the earlier 'vaccine' all of these diseases were called 'smallpox' and they were only supposed to happen once so to have several different ones is already a step backwards. Reality is you had 'smallpox' multiple times dispelling the whole notion of immunity and the very basis for 'vaccination'. https://odysee.com/@I-Rabbi-T:3/The-Truth-About-Smallpox---Kate-Sugak-Eng-2MW21.5:0
What has HIV got to do with anything? Also I know I had measles, not from memory as I was too young, but because I was told that I’d had the measles rash. I do remember having rubella as I was a bit older, in fact I know exactly where I was at the time. My measles IgG test was sufficient that I didn’t need a vaccination when I started work in the emergency department as a nurse.
By the way, measles is diagnosed by its rash, as are chicken pox, shingles, rubella, scarlet fever and meningitis as they have very distinct rash characteristics. How do I know? Simply because I worked as a nurse practitioner in primary care.
HIV can cause a rash (apparently) although 50 years ago this diagnosis wasn't around. How about Rocky Mountain spotted fever? Are you sure it wasn't that or how about Dengue or Kawasaki disease? Maybe a Polymorphic light eruption or a drug reaction?
To be sure it is impossible that you had measles 50 years ago since to confirm a measles case there would have needed to be laboratory testing which didn't exist in those days. Measles certainly isn't diagnosed by a " very distinct rash ".
The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence in the UK for example stated:
"Measles is a notifiable disease. Clinical diagnosis alone is unreliable, infection must be confirmed by laboratory investigation"
I had measles, rubella, and chickenpox. Probably subclinical mumps. Pertussis as an adult when my 8 month old, who had gotten the DTaP at 2, 4, and 6 months, caught pertussis anyway at a La Leche League meeting, and gave it to me. I had a bad case of measles, nearly pneumonia, but recovered just fine.
Vaccine reactions caused MS in me and autism in my daughter. The diseases were a walk in the park beside our lifetimes with severe chronic vaccine-induced diseases. I am very sorry that my parents unwittingly ruined my life, and for my having permitted the DTaP booster which erased my baby’s language so that she was diagnosed with autism at 20 months old. I am not sure how much blame I deserve for her encephalitic reaction to the hep-B vaccine at birth. I had told her doctor a month before she was born that I didn’t want her to get it as it often caused autism. They gave it to her anyway at midnight the day she was born, it caused four days and nights of constant, inconsolable, encephalitic screaming, and autism. That was on May 5, 2000. I still replay in my mind what I should have done to protect her from the vaccine and spare her life.
You are looking in the mirror again, philly, admiring your bollocks.
And, of course, YOU are the "Pharma Shill" increasing their profits every time you advocate against the relatively cheap vaccines and for the relatively far more expensive treatments for the diseases they prevent.
OK. Although I feel you should be thanking me for bringing to public discussion the very real risk profile of the mRNA jab that a few cult members are still desperately fighting for their “right“ to access, to “save” themselves against what is nothing more than a cold.
Thank you for all you do. It takes stamina and courage. And I learned something today: the rise of polio case in young children following advances in sanitation. Interesting.
Jr. is notoriously unqualified to be even associated with HHS much less at the helm. He’s been a vociferous antivax campaigner for decades and as a result, anathema to the world of medical science. We must find a way to rid our government of him. Flipping the House and electing a larger number of science-based Congress people would be a great start
Depends greatly on party. I live in Houston, home to the largest and generally considered to be the best medical center in the world- Saudi princes come here and there are special offices set up to guide them through. Yet my two Republican senators, Cornyn & Cruz, who no doubt use the TMC because they would be crazy NOT to, voted to approve this idiot. And yes, I have certainly let them know my thoughts on that.
My own standard quick rebuttal to arguments like RFK’s here is to point to data about the number of chickenpox cases before and after the introduction of the varicella vaccine.
Because it’s not like America saw significant “advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” *after 1995*. And yet, chickenpox cases rapidly plummeted by 90%+ after the vaccine was introduced and required for school attendance.
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated TETANUS in 1935, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated DIPHTHERIA and PERTUSSIS in 1940, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated POLIO in 1955, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated MEASLES in 1965, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated RUBELLA and MUMPS in 1970, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated HiB in 1990, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated CHICKENPOX and HEPATITIS A in 1995
The vaccines had nothing to do with it! ..Silly me!
And those were only reported *acute8 measles deaths, which it is estimated were 20-30% under-reported, and they exclude SSPE deaths, which were up to 100 a year.
Did any of the vaccines eliminate, eradicate, or stop people who run a fever and get paralyzed? Or run a fever, break out in a rash that itches like crazy, and lose their mind? Or people who cough till they suffocate?
Thank you for this summary. It will help me as I talk with friends about the importance of vaccines. Please keep on fighting the disinformation. A grateful RN.
I got my 8th COVID shot today, all Moderna as it’s worked so well for me. No side effects, and no COVID so far, despite many potential exposures. As a nurse at a private boarding school I was tested at least weekly by PCR the first two years , mostly antigen tests after that. Feeling grateful for vaccines.
I thought death was the only bad outcome? Or is it actually a good outcome RFK? Killing off the young will definitely decrease the chronic disease problem. Did RFK not know Logans Run was not real, but Sci Fi entertainment?
refuting Bobby's lies is a full-time job, thank you, Paul, for attempting to disabuse his falsehoods
I have pictures of headstones with infants less than a year old😢 A very common site in most cemeteries. Vaccines are the best thing humans have ever created. They've saved countless lives and prevented a lot of suffering.
As Thomas Jefferson recognized 225 years ago. Vaccination is a tremendous benefit to civilization. He also believed in reason and facts. Trump and his fellow travelers dystopian world wants to bring back a world divorced from fact, compromise and reality. Dr. Offit has presented data, they present distortion and lies. The media used to try and balance facts and perspectives. Now they give perspectives based on financial power and preserving their wealth. When virtue is lost no form of governance will overcome the wolves in man’s nature.
That was the reason Victorian and early Edwardian families had so many children here in the U.K., because they didn’t know how many would survive into adolescence or adulthood. When vaccines and antibiotics arrived then infant mortality dropped and so did family sizes (in general, there were exceptions of course).
Exactly!
I'm glad I don't live in America with this nutter in charge of health! The problem is that there may be a decrease in vaccine funding which will affect all of us, not just Americans?
I'm glad I emigrated from the USA to the Philippines in 2015 and still live there. It's a developing country so public health isn't perfect but we do have a distinguished physician as health secretary and some excellent infectious disease docs advising him. The deaths per capita during the Covid pandemic were lower than the USA.
Your death count was lower because you didn’t have Dr. Death Fauchi giving redismir to kill the kidneys, to cause fluids in the lungs & ultimately blow out their lungs. That drug I believe was being tested for aids or something else about 10 years ago. The study was stopped because so many of the animals were dying. And that piece of shit doctor ordered that drug as Covid protocol for the hospitals & killed thousands & thousands of people for no got dam reason other than his got dam God complex. How in the hell is he not in prison??
Actually, remdesivir was part of a trial of 4 different drugs, in the Democratic Republic of Congo, to see which, if any, were able to reduce ebola mortality in human beings, which averages around 50%. In the trial, a couple of the drugs reduced ebola mortality to 33-35%, but remdesivir's fatality rate was 53%. Some critics have used these numbers to say that remdesivir was more dangerous than ebola, but to be fair, there was no placebo control, and ebola mortality varies widely based on the specific strain involved, so that might not be the case. Certainly, however, remdesivir was an absolute disaster in its deployment to Covid patients, almost all of whom were beyond the viral replication phase of the disease by the time they were hospitalized, so it should not have been surprising that remdesivir did nothing but harm to the patients.
Thank you for sharing the Ebola information for the remdesivir drug trial. I did remember it failed, but had the wrong study.
You're very welcome. Are you aware of the new documentary film that debuts on Sunday at the Malibu Film Festival (and online), "An Inconvenient Study?" It's about a vaccinated/unvaccinated study done by pro-vaccine doctors and researchers at Henry Ford Health in Detroit. When it showed that unvaccinated children were far healthier, it was shelved, but Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) got a copy of it and leaked it to the public. The film is about not just the study, but the circumstances of it - what precipitated it and the shenanigans around suppressing it. See aninconvenientstudy.com for more info. My apologies if you already know about it.
I knew about the study, but not about the new documentary film. I will certainly check out the link you provided. I appreciate you!
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other countries will take the lead in vaccine development (hi china), an inevitable process that was coming anyway, this just speeds it up just like the dedollarization process is accelerating under this clown show
Sadly your comment is 100% on target
I am old enough to have measles, mumps, rubella and chickenpox. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. When I broke out with rubella, I missed a field trip that I excited about. The other "childhood diseases," made me sick and miserable. I was very grateful that my children could get the MMR vaccine. Unfortunately, there wasn't a vaccine for chickenpox before they got it.
I'm vaccinated against shingles. My sons and daughter-in-law will need shingles vaccines too. Because the chicken pox virus can reactivate as shingles in older adults.
FIRE RFK JR!
Your story sounds like mine but I was fortunate enough to have very mild cases of the diseases - my mother’s biggest problem was trying to keep us quiet rather than jumping on the bed.As I recall my younger brother and I had them one right after the other without a return to school for me until it was all done.
I'm the oldest of six. I think there were five of us when the older kids got the mumps first, then the measles. It happened at the end of the school year. We spent June inside. My dad spent his vacation, in the yard, grilling roast, chicken and turkey on the rotisserie. We watched him through the screen door.
I remember being too weak to ride my bike at first. My grandmother noticed that I lost weight. So much for the "good old days."
When my son who is turning 40 next month was in a home daycare - I don’t remember his exact age - the daughter of the daycare mom got chicken pox. One of the other moms wanted her to smear it on her child; she had had it as an adult and said she thought she was going to die.
OMG, how how awful 😖.
I am in the U.K. and I had measles, rubella and chickenpox, I don’t think I ever had mumps. My measles and rubella (then known as German Measles) when I was an infant, but didn’t get chickenpox until I was eight. The measles vaccine didn’t arrive here until 1968, some 5 years after the USA.
Unfortunately, the chickenpox vaccine won’t prevent infection with Human Herpes Virus 3 (Zoster), which means that children who are vaccinated against chickenpox will still be vulnerable to shingles later in life. The U.K. are introducing the chickenpox vaccine next year I think. The shingles vaccine is offered to those who are 65 after September 2024 (?), those of us who were 65 before then have to wait until we’re 70.
Are you absolutely sure it was measles and not mumps? The fact is that there isn't actually any way for the quacks to distinguish between them other than the supposed test which didn't exist in those days. It is purely an operation of changing definitions and acting as if that means healthy children. With the earlier 'vaccine' all of these diseases were called 'smallpox' and they were only supposed to happen once so to have several different ones is already a step backwards. Reality is you had 'smallpox' multiple times dispelling the whole notion of immunity and the very basis for 'vaccination'. https://odysee.com/@I-Rabbi-T:3/The-Truth-About-Smallpox---Kate-Sugak-Eng-2MW21.5:0
Absolutely measles, had a measles antibody test 15 years ago or 50 years post acute infection, still positive for IgG.
'antibody testing' 15 years ago is not any sort of evidence you had 'measles' 50 years ago. How would you distinguish this supposed IgG result from a 'positive HIV test'? https://www.scribd.com/document/669586413/Stefan-Lanka-the-Misinterpretation-of-the-Antibodies-English-Translation?v=0.460
What has HIV got to do with anything? Also I know I had measles, not from memory as I was too young, but because I was told that I’d had the measles rash. I do remember having rubella as I was a bit older, in fact I know exactly where I was at the time. My measles IgG test was sufficient that I didn’t need a vaccination when I started work in the emergency department as a nurse.
By the way, measles is diagnosed by its rash, as are chicken pox, shingles, rubella, scarlet fever and meningitis as they have very distinct rash characteristics. How do I know? Simply because I worked as a nurse practitioner in primary care.
HIV can cause a rash (apparently) although 50 years ago this diagnosis wasn't around. How about Rocky Mountain spotted fever? Are you sure it wasn't that or how about Dengue or Kawasaki disease? Maybe a Polymorphic light eruption or a drug reaction?
To be sure it is impossible that you had measles 50 years ago since to confirm a measles case there would have needed to be laboratory testing which didn't exist in those days. Measles certainly isn't diagnosed by a " very distinct rash ".
The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence in the UK for example stated:
"Measles is a notifiable disease. Clinical diagnosis alone is unreliable, infection must be confirmed by laboratory investigation"
I had measles, rubella, and chickenpox. Probably subclinical mumps. Pertussis as an adult when my 8 month old, who had gotten the DTaP at 2, 4, and 6 months, caught pertussis anyway at a La Leche League meeting, and gave it to me. I had a bad case of measles, nearly pneumonia, but recovered just fine.
Vaccine reactions caused MS in me and autism in my daughter. The diseases were a walk in the park beside our lifetimes with severe chronic vaccine-induced diseases. I am very sorry that my parents unwittingly ruined my life, and for my having permitted the DTaP booster which erased my baby’s language so that she was diagnosed with autism at 20 months old. I am not sure how much blame I deserve for her encephalitic reaction to the hep-B vaccine at birth. I had told her doctor a month before she was born that I didn’t want her to get it as it often caused autism. They gave it to her anyway at midnight the day she was born, it caused four days and nights of constant, inconsolable, encephalitic screaming, and autism. That was on May 5, 2000. I still replay in my mind what I should have done to protect her from the vaccine and spare her life.
Thank you again Dr O. So respect you for standing up to this clown in HHS and his evil.
Once again, the anti vaxxers will try to hijack this post but remember-DO NOT ENGAGE. Someone had this idea on his last post and it’s sound advice.
Remember folks. IGNORE the antivax trolls. Maybe they’ll go away, maybe they’ll get an infectious disease!
Keep getting your boosters until your heart explodes. Thoughts and prayers.
No "thoughts and prayers" for murderous antivax arseholes like you Philly.
Keep pimping those lies.
Hi, Philly, what does the B stand for, you silly baboon.
Hey, buffoon! Did you see that Trump negotiated yet ANOTHER peace deal today?
This is a science blog, son, please keep up.
Those are balls on your chin, you murderous big-Pharma shill.
You are looking in the mirror again, philly, admiring your bollocks.
And, of course, YOU are the "Pharma Shill" increasing their profits every time you advocate against the relatively cheap vaccines and for the relatively far more expensive treatments for the diseases they prevent.
The friggin' irony.
RIP in Hell, Phil
OK. Although I feel you should be thanking me for bringing to public discussion the very real risk profile of the mRNA jab that a few cult members are still desperately fighting for their “right“ to access, to “save” themselves against what is nothing more than a cold.
Thank you for all you do. It takes stamina and courage. And I learned something today: the rise of polio case in young children following advances in sanitation. Interesting.
Jr. is notoriously unqualified to be even associated with HHS much less at the helm. He’s been a vociferous antivax campaigner for decades and as a result, anathema to the world of medical science. We must find a way to rid our government of him. Flipping the House and electing a larger number of science-based Congress people would be a great start
Depends greatly on party. I live in Houston, home to the largest and generally considered to be the best medical center in the world- Saudi princes come here and there are special offices set up to guide them through. Yet my two Republican senators, Cornyn & Cruz, who no doubt use the TMC because they would be crazy NOT to, voted to approve this idiot. And yes, I have certainly let them know my thoughts on that.
There is a two term limit and the democratic party has already exceeded it.
My own standard quick rebuttal to arguments like RFK’s here is to point to data about the number of chickenpox cases before and after the introduction of the varicella vaccine.
Because it’s not like America saw significant “advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” *after 1995*. And yet, chickenpox cases rapidly plummeted by 90%+ after the vaccine was introduced and required for school attendance.
Ah yes, I see now that it was.....
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated TETANUS in 1935, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated DIPHTHERIA and PERTUSSIS in 1940, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated POLIO in 1955, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated MEASLES in 1965, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated RUBELLA and MUMPS in 1970, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated HiB in 1990, and how
“Advances in agriculture, engineering, refrigeration, sanitation, nutrition, and water chlorination” that eliminated CHICKENPOX and HEPATITIS A in 1995
The vaccines had nothing to do with it! ..Silly me!
Another ignorant antivax arsehole who wants us to return to the days when 500* children died every single year from measles alone.
*adjusted for population: 800 child deaths
And those were only reported *acute8 measles deaths, which it is estimated were 20-30% under-reported, and they exclude SSPE deaths, which were up to 100 a year.
;-)
...oops, misread the intent here and the author. :)
Did any of the vaccines eliminate, eradicate, or stop people who run a fever and get paralyzed? Or run a fever, break out in a rash that itches like crazy, and lose their mind? Or people who cough till they suffocate?
Thank you again, Dr Offit, for all you do. Keep speaking up loudly. You are speaking for all of us.
Thank you for this summary. It will help me as I talk with friends about the importance of vaccines. Please keep on fighting the disinformation. A grateful RN.
I got my 8th COVID shot today, all Moderna as it’s worked so well for me. No side effects, and no COVID so far, despite many potential exposures. As a nurse at a private boarding school I was tested at least weekly by PCR the first two years , mostly antigen tests after that. Feeling grateful for vaccines.
Cantwell showed a chart of morbidity, not lives saved, so RFK Jr. was not even rebutting the data that was presented.
I am flummoxed as to why this guy is so obsessed and so gullible or evil. He is a mosquito on the body politic that needs to be swatted.
The Black Sheeple in the Kennedy Family.
They apparently lobotomized the wrong family member.
I thought death was the only bad outcome? Or is it actually a good outcome RFK? Killing off the young will definitely decrease the chronic disease problem. Did RFK not know Logans Run was not real, but Sci Fi entertainment?
There is nothing worse than being both evil & willfully ignorant.